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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Sun Jan 14 2018, 23:58

Forgeworld should release Vect's castigators. Otherwise what are they going to design. Maybe a Coven lord of war?
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Mon Jan 15 2018, 00:09

@lament.config wrote:
Forgeworld should release Vect's castigators. Otherwise what are they going to design. Maybe a Coven lord of war?

Giant beast of some kind for Wych Cults?
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Mon Jan 15 2018, 01:44

Still voting for a Kabal superheavy gunship as our LoW
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Mon Jan 15 2018, 04:54

@FuelDrop wrote:
Still voting for a Kabal superheavy gunship as our LoW

I'll be happy to decide on a LoW after we get a balanced and fluffy dex.

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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Mon Jan 15 2018, 09:43

@lament.config wrote:
Forgeworld should release Vect's castigators. Otherwise what are they going to design. Maybe a Coven lord of war?


@FuelDrop wrote:
Still voting for a Kabal superheavy gunship as our LoW

@Burnage wrote:
Giant beast of some kind for Wych Cults?

The three of them, I say. That still would leave us with 5 Forgeworld options. If they would do Vect, Malys, Kheradruakh, Sliscus and Sathonix or a new Drazhar, whichever GW won't make, then we would look as a normal faction and not the marginal one (the next with fewer options are Necrons with 8 kits to our 2!).

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Although I'd be more than happy if they released a kit to enlarge the Raider (just a floor extension?) and rules for such a vehicle... Guess the Tantalus makes up for the enlarged, upgunned transport.

The superheavy gunship FuelDrop mentioned is the thing we lack for sure. Something with a superior dark lance, in the style of the Eldar Scorpion or Cobra.

An enlarged Raider would allow for a bigger Reaper like kit to be installed so the combination of the aforementioned enlarged Raider with the bigger Reaper like kit would allow for a vehicle in keeping with the existing ones but with the firepower of a mainstream superheavy.

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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Mon Jan 15 2018, 15:00

I want the Shadow superheavy
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Tue Jan 16 2018, 07:29

A katamaran style ship would be cool.
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Tue Jan 16 2018, 09:47

@|Meavar wrote:
A katamaran style ship would be cool.

The Tantalus is almost katamaran style.

I absolutely love the design of the Raider/Ravager, and the Reaper shows it works for a gunship too, making a sleek and mean looking one...

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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Tue Jan 16 2018, 11:24

A coven super heavy would be fantastic, some huge beast the haemonculi have caputured and modified.
The conversion opportunities would be fantastic.
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Tue Jan 16 2018, 18:41

Some gigantic beast that a coven formed (a mix of Pain Engine, Tyrannid DNA, and Imperial tear buckets) with a swarm of batshit crazy Cultists riding it like there is no tomorrow. That would be a model i would totally instabuy.

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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Tue Jan 16 2018, 19:44

Considering the nautical theme drukhari have, plus in the dark eldar omnibus aelindrach had tentacles grabbing a raider. My wish is for a shadow kraken, taken from aelindrach and forced to fight by haemonculi
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Tue Jan 16 2018, 20:26

@Britishgrotesque wrote:
Considering the nautical theme drukhari have, plus in the dark eldar omnibus aelindrach had tentacles grabbing a raider. My wish is for a shadow kraken, taken from aelindrach and forced to fight by haemonculi

I..... like it? Unexpected but interesting idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Tue Jan 16 2018, 21:31

I'd prefer corrupted Wraithknight Constructs (any size). From what I know about FW, their strength lies in making big ridgid war machines with many details. Just take the Tantalus as a reference.

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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Tue Jan 16 2018, 21:49

I was thinking something along the lines of the lizardmen dread saurian, would be like a giant kymera picture that being ridden by a beast master.
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Tue Jan 16 2018, 21:51

While this might be a bit of a cop-out, what about conversions for existing Wraith Constructs/creatures?

I'd personally love to see a Squiggoth with it's own swarm of Beastmasters keeping it moving towards the enemy, or a tamed Bio-Titan, serving as a mount for a particularly extravagant warlord
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Tue Jan 16 2018, 21:52

It's not a cop-out at all if they made a model for something along these lines with rules you could build whatever you wanted.
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Wed Jan 17 2018, 00:31

That moment when Mandrake King summons a Shoggoth.

I'd be down for some more Daemon Mandrake stuff to fill out their kingdom fluff. Otherwise a chimera/shoggoth designed by the covens would be pretty cool.

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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Wed Jan 17 2018, 01:16

I'd love a Mandrake Cerberus. A gigantic three headed dog wreathed in daemonic flame. Armed with a super-flamer and terrifying melee

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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Wed Jan 17 2018, 07:02

Some more mandrake/ aelindrach shadow creatures would be great.
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Wed Jan 17 2018, 09:56

As Mppqlmd and Crazy_Ivan have already said, I would expect and see the most likely option for a Dark Eldar superheavy to be a gigantic flesh construct built by the Haemonculus covens. As with the Eldar with their wraith units this flesh construct would be analogous to the grotesques and pain engines. It's even in the fluff in one of the codexes that there is a Haemonculus coven that specialises in building enormous flesh constructs.

I would be less confident in a castigator or corrupted wraithknight due to its similarity to Craftworld units, if it were to be a unit that is of the Kabalite faction I would say it would probably be some kind of flyer.
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Wed Jan 17 2018, 10:23

@Vorl-Xoelanth wrote:
As Mppqlmd and Crazy_Ivan have already said, I would expect and see the most likely option for a Dark Eldar superheavy to be a gigantic flesh construct built by the Haemonculus covens. As with the Eldar with their wraith units this flesh construct would be analogous to the grotesques and pain engines. It's even in the fluff in one of the codexes that there is a Haemonculus coven that specialises in building enormous flesh constructs.

I would be less confident in a castigator or corrupted wraithknight due to its similarity to Craftworld units, if it were to be a unit that is of the Kabalite faction I would say it would probably be some kind of flyer.

I agree with this line of thought. I think it would be more likely to see something mentioned in codices that is inherrently DE rather than an idea stolen from Craftworlders that is only really written about in BL books.

I would love a Kabalite slave barge with a mechanic for gifting CP upon a number of slaves being 'taken', similar to the old PFP mechanic where each unit killed equalled one PFP token. It would require more balance, obviously. Pure wishlisting though

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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Wed Jan 17 2018, 10:31

@Cavash wrote:
I would love a Kabalite slave barge with a mechanic for gifting CP upon a number of slaves being 'taken', similar to the old PFP mechanic where each unit killed equalled one PFP token. It would require more balance, obviously. Pure wishlisting though

Yeah, I think a Wych focused slave barge would be good. Maybe something like the cauldron of blood but some kind of floating slave pit, or arena pit covered in chains which would catch victims and throw them in and pit them against a Wych in single combat for the kabalites around it to gain sustenance from.
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Wed Jan 17 2018, 11:15

@Vorl-Xoelanth wrote:
@Cavash wrote:
I would love a Kabalite slave barge with a mechanic for gifting CP upon a number of slaves being 'taken', similar to the old PFP mechanic where each unit killed equalled one PFP token. It would require more balance, obviously. Pure wishlisting though

Yeah, I think a Wych focused slave barge would be good. Maybe something like the cauldron of blood but some kind of floating slave pit, or arena pit covered in chains which would catch victims and throw them in and pit them against a Wych in single combat for the kabalites around it to gain sustenance from.

I'm wondering if such a thing could be done with a dual purpose kit like the Necron Ghost/Doomsday Ark or the Space Wolves Stormfang Gunship/Stormwolf Assault Craft

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I was thinking something along the lines of the lizardmen dread saurian, would be like a giant kymera picture that being ridden by a beast master.

That would be great. It would build up the Beast faction of Drukhari. The Wraithknight and ulterior Start Collecting and Wraithguard kits have build up the construct theme for Craftworlders...

@Vorl-Xoelanth wrote:
As Mppqlmd and Crazy_Ivan have already said, I would expect and see the most likely option for a Dark Eldar superheavy to be a gigantic flesh construct built by the Haemonculus covens. As with the Eldar with their wraith units this flesh construct would be analogous to the grotesques and pain engines. It's even in the fluff in one of the codexes that there is a Haemonculus coven that specialises in building enormous flesh constructs.
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And this, maybe, the best idea. It would follow the Craftworld style of new kits/deals, building up a specific faction, that of Covens, with a specific style. Also it would look absolutely proprietary. The Coven players would take it instantly. A good many Kabal and Cult players would build a Coven just for the sake of taking it.

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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Wed Jan 17 2018, 12:50

Honestly, what we need isn't a Superheavy, it's a Superheavy hunter. We have no practical answer to titans and their ilk. Even our go to massed darklight spam is pretty useless against anything T 9+ with a voidshield.
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PostSubject: Re: Next codex announcements?    Wed Jan 17 2018, 13:45

@Vorl-Xoelanth wrote:
As Mppqlmd and Crazy_Ivan have already said, I would expect and see the most likely option for a Dark Eldar superheavy to be a gigantic flesh construct built by the Haemonculus covens. As with the Eldar with their wraith units this flesh construct would be analogous to the grotesques and pain engines. It's even in the fluff in one of the codexes that there is a Haemonculus coven that specialises in building enormous flesh constructs.

Ohhh, the Coven of Thirteen Scars's Tower of Flesh! something like that would be cool xD
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