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Atradies17
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PostSubject: 2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike   2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 12 2017, 23:04

+Dark Eldar+ Webway Portal (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [110 PL, 1999pts]

Hey crew. I wanted to get your opinion on this list. Trying to utilize the new Webway Portal to drop the large set of warriors in some ruins. The scourges and mandrakes can snipe backfield or support them. The rest can hold objectives and shoot. Any thoughts.

Battalion Detachment +3CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [82 PL, 1476pts]

HQ [8 PL, 131pts]
Archon [4 PL, 73pts]
Agoniser [4pts], Blaster [15pts],
Archon [4 PL, 58pts]
Agoniser [4pts], Relic pistol

Troops [15 PL, 270pts]
Kabalite Warriors [3 PL, 50pts]
3x Kabalite Warrior [21pts]
Kabalite Warrior with Blaster
Sybarite

Kabalite Warriors [3 PL, 50pts]
3x Kabalite Warrior [21pts]
Kabalite Warrior with Blaster
Sybarite

Kabalite Warriors [9 PL, 170pts]
17x Kabalite Warrior [119pts]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [22pts] Blaster [15pts]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [22pts] Blaster [15pts]
Sybarite [7pts]

Elites [9 PL, 190pts]
Mandrakes [9 PL, 190pts]
9x Mandrake [171pts]
Nightfiend [19pts]

Fast Attack [18 PL, 255pts]
Scourges [6 PL, 85pts]
3x Scourge [42pts]
3x Shardcarbine
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [29pts] Blaster [15pts]
Solarite [14pts]

Scourges [6 PL, 85pts]
3x Scourge [42pts]
3x Shardcarbine
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [29pts] Blaster [15pts]
Solarite [14pts]

Scourges [6 PL, 85pts]
3x Scourge [42pts]
3x Shardcarbine
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [29pts] Blaster [15pts]
Solarite [14pts]

Flyer [16 PL, 310pts]
Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]
2 Dark Lances [40pts], Twin splinter rifle
Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]
2 Dark Lances [40pts], Twin splinter rifle

Dedicated Transport [16 PL, 320pts]
Venom [4 PL, 80pts]
Splinter Cannon [15pts], Twin splinter rifle
Venom [4 PL, 80pts]
Splinter Cannon [15pts], Twin splinter rifle
Venom [4 PL, 80pts]
Splinter Cannon [15pts], Twin splinter rifle
Venom [4 PL, 80pts]
Splinter Cannon [15pts], Twin splinter rifle

Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [28 PL, 523pts]

HQ [4 PL, 58pts]
Archon [4 PL, 58pts]
Agoniser [4pts], Splinter pistol

Heavy Support [24 PL, 465pts]
Ravager [8 PL, 155pts]
Bladevanes, Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Night Shield

Ravager [8 PL, 155pts]
Bladevanes, Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Night Shield

Ravager [8 PL, 155pts]
Bladevanes, Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Night Shield
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PostSubject: Re: 2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike   2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 12 2017, 23:18

If you want to drop larges units of kabalites in ruins, I suggest to swap the blasters for dark lances. Having 4 dark lances in his back field will add a nice deny zone and with that many body count, they will be hard to remove.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike   2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 13 2017, 02:59

So the extra command point for the spearhead detachment isn't worth the 58 points you need to waste on the third Archon.

You can get the 3 ravagers in your main detachment.

for your scourges, if they are going to be supporting fire, you need to take 4 dark lances in each. I would opt for these rather than putting the dark lances in the blob of warriors that dumpeal suggested (really just a matter of only so many points, and I think the scourges are better at it.)

Drop 2 of the venoms and the extra Archon plus a few mandrakes (or the blasters off your smaller kabalite squads) and you've got enough to get the points for the extra dark lances.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike   2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 13 2017, 13:23

Thanks for the reply. The extra Archon is a tax and I agree about the comment point. I’ll drop the detachment. I do plan on leaving the large warrior squad stationary so dark lances should work. The extra range will be great if the enemy moves away from them. I will just be hitting on 4s when they first drop.

I think I’ll put the lances with the warriors as they will have to chew through more to got to them. I also want to leave the scourges open to grab objectives and don’t want to take the shooting penalty on them. I will make some adjustments and post my results here. Should have a game on Friday to test.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike   2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 13 2017, 18:55

Ok here is the updated list for Fridays game.

+Dark Eldar+ Webway Portal (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) 2000pts


Battalion Detachment +3CP

HQ [8 PL, 131pts]
Archon [4 PL, 73pts]
Agoniser [4pts], Blaster [15pts],
Archon [4 PL, 58pts]
Agoniser [4pts], Relic pistol

Troops [15 PL, 270pts]
Kabalite Warriors [3 PL, 50pts]
3x Kabalite Warrior [21pts]
Kabalite Warrior with Blaster
Sybarite
Phantasm Grenade Launcher [3pts]

Kabalite Warriors [3 PL, 50pts]
3x Kabalite Warrior [21pts]
Kabalite Warrior with Blaster
Sybarite
Phantasm Grenade Launcher [3pts]

Kabalite Warriors [9 PL, 170pts]
17x Kabalite Warrior [119pts]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [22pts] Dark Lance [20pts]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [22pts] Dark Lance [20pts]
Sybarite [7pts]
Phantasm Grenade Launcher [3pts]

Elites [9 PL, 190pts]
Mandrakes [9 PL, 190pts]
9x Mandrake [171pts]
Nightfiend [19pts]

Fast Attack [18 PL, 255pts]
Scourges [6 PL, 85pts]
3x Scourge [42pts]
3x Shardcarbine
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [29pts] Blaster [15pts]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [29pts] Darklance [20pts]
Solarite [14pts]

Scourges [6 PL, 85pts]
3x Scourge [42pts]
3x Shardcarbine
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [29pts] Blaster [15pts]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [29pts] Darklance [20pts]
Solarite [14pts]

Scourges [6 PL, 85pts]
3x Scourge [42pts]
3x Shardcarbine
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [29pts] Blaster [15pts]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [29pts] Darklance [20pts]
Solarite [14pts]

Heavy Support [24 PL, 465pts]
Ravager [8 PL, 155pts]
Bladevanes, Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Night Shield

Ravager [8 PL, 155pts]
Bladevanes, Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Night Shield

Ravager [8 PL, 155pts]
Bladevanes, Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Dark Lance [20pts], Night Shield

Flyer [16 PL, 310pts]
Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]
2 Dark Lances [40pts], Twin splinter rifle
Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]
2 Dark Lances [40pts], Twin splinter rifle

Dedicated Transport [16 PL, 320pts]
Venom [4 PL, 80pts]
Splinter Cannon [15pts], Twin splinter rifle
Venom [4 PL, 80pts]
Splinter Cannon [15pts], Twin splinter rifle
Venom [4 PL, 80pts]
Splinter Cannon [15pts], Twin splinter rifle
Venom [4 PL, 80pts]
Splinter Cannon [15pts], Twin splinter rifle

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PostSubject: Re: 2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike   2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 14 2017, 20:33

Do you have an empty venom in your list? If so, why? If not what is the fourth unit to go in it?
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PostSubject: Re: 2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike   2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 15 2017, 00:58

The fourth Venom is for the two Archons to ride in. I find it’s safer for him to have a ride as I don’t want to give up warlord.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike   2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 15 2017, 02:15

I'm not sure that is necessary, as the inability to target characters can get the Archons up the table OK.

As an aside, the format of your army list is really painful to read, and it would make any assistance easier if it wasn't just a copy + paste from Battlescribe.

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PostSubject: Re: 2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike   2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 15 2017, 19:30

Ah ... I thought you were putting both archon in the same venom.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike   2k Dark Eldar Webway Strike I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 17 2017, 10:22

How did the game go?
How was the webway portal?
I was thinking of using the 20 man blob squad as an aggressive element rather than a defensive in a building element, so I'm interested how that went for you.

On dark lance vs blaster, unless you are targeting models w 2 or less wounds then you are better off taking dark lances that MOVE every turn than a blaster. That extra damage is just that effective!
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