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PostSubject: Dark Eldar 2000 Points Webway Warriors   Mon Dec 04 2017, 18:30

Hi, it has been a while since I posted a list but wanted to make one for the new chapter approved changes. The archon has the relic pistol and the succubus has the warlord trait. Give her the +1 WS combat drug and after turn 3 trigger the warlord trait on 4+ which seems pretty strong. I will probably plan to have the succubus mainly fighter with their agoniser for the warlord trait synergy.

This list also has 2 maxed out kabalite warrior squads that I plan to deploy using the webway stratagem. They come out of the portal immediately rapid firing with 15 splinter rifles, 2 splinter cannons, and 2 blasters which is quite a bit of shooting. With that much firepower it could do some damage to enemy infantry blobs and could even threaten something like magnus or mortarion.

The army also has a decent amount of assault units including two squads of incubi and a wych squad the succubus rides with in the raider.

The minimum sized beast units were added because I had about 80-90 extra points and I wasn't sure what to add, any suggestions are welcome! Maybe could swap to splinter cannons on my venom and jetfighter instead of running beasts. The list might be a little light on lances, possibly could find a way to fit in a third ravage somehow.


Battalion Detachment:

HQ:
Archon – 61
Agoniser
Phantasm Grenade Launcher
Relic - The Parasite’s Kiss

Succubus – 76
Archite Glaive
Agoniser
Warlord Trait – Blood Dancer

Elites:
Lhamaean – 18

Medusae – 21

Sslyth – 31

Ur-Ghul – 20

5 Incubi – 90

5 Incubi – 90

Troops:
20 Kabalite Warriors – 207
2 Splinter Cannons
2 Blasters
Sybarite with Agoniser, Splinter Pistol, and Phantasm Grenade Launcher

20 Kabalite Warriors – 207
2 Splinter Cannons
2 Blasters
Sybarite with Agoniser, Splinter Pistol, and Phantasm Grenade Launcher

8 Wyches – 80
1 Hydra Gauntlet
Hekatrix with Agoniser, Splinter Pistol, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Fast Attack:
2 Khymerae - 20

2 Khymerae – 20

3 Razorwing Flocks – 42

Heavy Support:
Ravager – 156
3 Dark Lances
Shock Prow

Ravager – 156
3 Dark Lances
Shock Prow

Dedicated Transports:
Venom – 80
1 Splinter Cannons
1 Twin Splinter-Rifle

Venom – 80
1 Splinter Cannons
1 Twin Splinter-Rifle

Venom – 80
1 Splinter Cannons
1 Twin-Splinter Rifle

Raider – 116
Dark Lance
Shock Prow

Fliers:
Razorwing Jetfighter – 155
2 Dark Lances
Twin Splinter Rifle
Razorwing Missiles

Voidraven Bomber - 194
2 Dark Scythes
Voidraven Missiles

Total = 2000
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar 2000 Points Webway Warriors   Tue Dec 05 2017, 14:38

+1 WS is not the same as +1 to hit, so your plan does not work. It does not raise the result of the roll, it just allows lower values to be still a hit.

And for my taste the kabalite warrior troops are little big. I myself have not played that much yet, but i play mostly against Astra Militarum, and warriors without a vehicle is just a way of offering them every turn a good target for the flashlights. but your webway trick may work.
But don't give them splinter canons, for one point less you get two more warriors instead, which gives them the same number of shots.

Everything else looks fine for a test run, without knowing your local meta i cannot say much more.

Only that 2 puppies are actually better, then they look like. In my last two games, i had the same problem, and just added them to fill the points up.
Because they were mostly ignored by my enemies, they could do one, two tricks. It almost looked like the other players just realized they are there, when it was too late. Like when they charged into a tank and he even needed to pull back another unit to get them of his tank. But i doubt players will do that mistake twice.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar 2000 Points Webway Warriors   Tue Dec 05 2017, 15:38

Drop the splinter cannons on the warriors, and those flocks, gets you 102 points to max out that wych squad and buy a venom for the succubus to use on her own. Then drop 1 pgl and 1 prow and you can have two extras hydra gauntlets in that wych boat.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar 2000 Points Webway Warriors   Tue Dec 05 2017, 22:12

Unfortunatley the drug will not fix the Succubus's problem with the warlord trait, and while fluffy and fun I don't really think it's worth using for her. She is standalone one of the worst CC HQs we have with the Haemmy packing more of a punch, and the trolly bull you can pull with an Archon pulling ahead for me.

While conventional wisdom would tell you to drop splinter cannons for more bodies, I find the idea of making those two blobs of warriors as effective as you can be rather interesting (and viable with the WW strat), and I'm interested to see how well they turn out for you (and depending on when they come out they could be a feasible threat in CC as well)

I see you don't have many spare points which is disappointing but I'd reccomend trying to squeeze in a few more dark lances if you can, and I feel your lacking in Dissy cannons which are VERY fun against more elite infantry (MEQs TEQs and weaker vehicles) so if your meta is packed with them (and mine is) then I'd reccomend packing a few of them as well.

Overall your list seems solid, packing a bit more splinter then I am used to running myself, but I'm interested to see how it goes for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar 2000 Points Webway Warriors   Tue Dec 05 2017, 22:32

Thanks for the tips about the succubus, wow that makes that warlord trait even worse than I thought. I think I will swap her out for a haemonculus in that case and swap the relic to him as well to give the archon a blaster.

I think I will also buff the wych squad up to 10 if I am dropping the succubus to give them a few more wych weapons. Will probably cut some of the beasts to free up some points to do this. Also if I swap the succubus, swapping the wyches out for a unit of wracks instead for the synergy with him might be a decent option.

The splinter cannons on the warriors could potentially be cut, I figured if I was going to upgrade any units to splinter cannons the big warriors blobs would be the best place though as I am guaranteed at least 1 round of shooting with the squad coming in from the webway and they have a lot of wounds to go through before I need to start removing heavy/special weapons. After turn 2 you get re-rolls to charge as well so I think its roughly 50% chance to charge from deep strike with rerolls so waiting to turn 2 to bring in the big warriors blobs to also try to make a charge could be good. Also gives my other melee squads time to get into position to potentially make charges as well.

I also wanted to maybe try to fit in a squad of scourges or the third ravager somehow but hard to fit things in. Was thinking about cutting the splinter cannons from the warrior blobs and the voidraven's missiles to possibly try to fit something in.

Edit: List version 2, with some changes. Swapped the splinter cannons in the warrior squads for dark lances instead, cut the razorwing flocks to make points for some upgrades. Also cut the voidraven missiles to make room as well. Added a wrack squad instead of wyches for the synergy with the haemonculus. Haemonculus rides along with the wracks and I also put the pistol on his since the archon can already take a decent shooting option with a blaster. This gives me 20 anti-tank weapons in my list now but I cut down on some of the anti-infantry shooting options. I have a lot of assault units which can deal with infantry though.


Battalion Detachment:

HQ:
Archon – 76
Agoniser
Blaster
Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Haemonculus –83
Electrocorrosive Whip
Crucible of Malediction
Relic - The Parasite’s Kiss
Warlord Trait – Master Regeneratist

Elites:
Lhamaean – 18

Medusae – 21

Sslyth – 31

Ur-Ghul – 20

5 Incubi – 90

5 Incubi – 90

Troops:
20 Kabalite Warriors – 217
2 Dark Lances
2 Blasters
Sybarite with Agoniser, Splinter Pistol, and Phantasm Grenade Launcher

20 Kabalite Warriors – 217
2 Dark Lances
2 Blasters
Sybarite with Agoniser, Splinter Pistol, and Phantasm Grenade Launcher

9 Wracks - 116
Acothyst with Electrocorrosive Whip

Fast Attack:
2 Khymerae - 20

2 Khymerae - 20

Heavy Support:
Ravager – 156
3 Dark Lances
Shock Prow

Ravager – 155
3 Dark Lances

Dedicated Transports:
Venom – 80
1 Splinter Cannons
1 Twin Splinter-Rifle

Venom – 80
1 Splinter Cannons
1 Twin Splinter-Rifle

Venom – 80
1 Splinter Cannons
1 Twin-Splinter Rifle

Raider – 116
Dark Lance
Shock Prow

Fliers:
Razorwing Jetfighter – 155
2 Dark Lances
Twin Splinter Rifle
Razorwing Missiles

Voidraven Bomber - 169
2 Dark Scythes

Total = 2000
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar 2000 Points Webway Warriors   Wed Dec 06 2017, 18:53

Looks good!

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