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PostSubject: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 03:16

Tantalus raised to 400, which sucks because I loved it and felt like it was at a good price point. It's not worth near the cost of an imperial knight.

And the other points are....

Razorwing Flocks 14, now its official I guess

Lhamaean 18- I stopped liking these things the second they stopped being HQ's. That being said they are still expensive for damage output and how survivable they are.

Ur- Ghul 20, dropped a third of its points. Jeez, what a mean attack puppy, still probably not worth it but
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Slyth 31, about a 30% decrease, better and will make people happy, but I still don't like the role slyth fill

Medusae 21- Holy crap. A 3 wound model with 4 str 4 rend -2 shots? I'm crying, 25% point decrease just made these things worth it. Holy crap. Guys these things here might just be worth it. The range on them sucks crud though, that's a big problem. If it was 10, you could webway portal a raider of these... but its 9, the magical crappy number.

GW missed the rest of our codex though... I'm glad they thought of the court but they could have done a tad more...

OH and shadow specters got frak. 23 to 33? I know they were pretty good but jesus. Forgeworld was not kind to the aeldari
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 03:23

Corsair reavers now cost 9 points with a shard carbine overall. 45 poison shots for 135 points is reasonable plus the short range pistols when it comes up. Very neat.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 03:24

Does it appear to anyone else that GW is moving Forgeworld to Narrative and Open Play only? The points don't seem to make any sense other than they don't want to tweak them in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 04:07

Silver Lining: Twin Assault cannon razor backs went 100 --> 144 (edit 114 not 144)
Gulliman went up 25 points (its a start i guess)
Conscripts went up to 4 points in line with a guardsmen. Apparently they are still worth it for their footprint according to my local competitive player but tbh id sooner take 3 x 10 units of guardsmen to do the same job better

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 04:24

The Tantalus apparently went from 350 to 400 points which, while steep, isn't catastrophic.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 06:30

The price increase on both the razorback and girlyman are going to hurt razorback assault cannon lists.


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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 06:33

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The price increase on both the razorback and girlyman are going to hurt razorback assault cannon lists.

Link to these leaks? I'd like to see if Covens got any love.

I can already tell you that they did not.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 06:33

Yeah, found it
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 06:36

I mean they really didn't have a choice. After all, DE were dominating all the tournaments and their lists are so varied and interesting, they really didn't need anything to be modified.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 06:41

I'm usually optimistic about things but, that was disappointing to see.

Leaves a lot on the table for the codex. I was however surprised to see the BA and the DA are getting their codex released in December so GW is still pumping the books out fairly quickly. The last couple of books released have been very decent it will be interesting to see if that trend continues.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 07:53

I came here full of hope to see at least a tiny buff for my poor kabal... I got a huge nerf instead in the form of 50 point on the Tantalus which i got a week ago... why? seriously WHY?
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 09:36

I'm surprised there was so little for DE in there. Hopefully this means out codex will be out relatively early in 2018!

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 09:42

Guys, I think we should step back and realize they have made the right decision here. Dark Eldar are an army with no dedicated fan base, horrible models that haven't received an absolutely gorgeous update in 5th edition, no interesting themes or unique fluff, and the few players that are out there certainly haven't sent a letter detailing a couple of easy points changes that would make the army much better in addition to a more extensive necessary overhaul.

GW has decided to let this little, uninteresting, fanless army die, and this is for the best.

We now return you from bizzaro world to your regular universe.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 11:01

The wording in my Ebook version of the codex states that Archons let the court re-roll hit rolls. It doesn't say anything about it being in the combat phase, nor can I see an update for that in the latest Xenos 1 FAQ.
So do Medusae get rerollable shots? 21 points for S4 -2AP reroll misses, that seems kinda nice if they do.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 12:10

My bad. Ultra buddy read it wrong, it’s only 114 for twin assault cannon Razorback

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 12:37

@DevilDoll wrote:
I came here full of hope to see at least a tiny buff for my poor kabal... I got a huge nerf instead in the form of 50 point on the Tantalus which i got a week ago... why? seriously WHY?


Totally agree. Stupid

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 12:40

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Guys, I think we should step back and realize they have made the right decision here. Dark Eldar are an army with no dedicated fan base, horrible models that haven't received an absolutely gorgeous update in 5th edition, no interesting themes or unique fluff, and the few players that are out there certainly haven't sent a letter detailing a couple of easy points changes that would make the army much better in addition to a more extensive necessary overhaul.

GW has decided to let this little, uninteresting, fanless army die, and this is for the best.

We now return you from bizzaro world to your regular universe.

I cant tell if your being sarcastic? Hilarious post bro!!


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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 12:42

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@FuelDrop wrote:
Guys, I think we should step back and realize they have made the right decision here. Dark Eldar are an army with no dedicated fan base, horrible models that haven't received an absolutely gorgeous update in 5th edition, no interesting themes or unique fluff, and the few players that are out there certainly haven't sent a letter detailing a couple of easy points changes that would make the army much better in addition to a more extensive necessary overhaul.

GW has decided to let this little, uninteresting, fanless army die, and this is for the best.

We now return you from bizzaro world to your regular universe.

I cant tell if your being sarcastic? I hope so.

That comment was posted by my bizzaro universe counterpart. Or my GW Employee counterpart, they have about the same grip on reality...

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 13:06

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@Old_Soul wrote:
@FuelDrop wrote:
Guys, I think we should step back and realize they have made the right decision here. Dark Eldar are an army with no dedicated fan base, horrible models that haven't received an absolutely gorgeous update in 5th edition, no interesting themes or unique fluff, and the few players that are out there certainly haven't sent a letter detailing a couple of easy points changes that would make the army much better in addition to a more extensive necessary overhaul.

GW has decided to let this little, uninteresting, fanless army die, and this is for the best.

We now return you from bizzaro world to your regular universe.

I cant tell if your being sarcastic? I hope so.

That comment was posted by my bizzaro universe counterpart. Or my GW Employee counterpart, they have about the same grip on reality...


Haha nice. I was so devastated about the pointless ( pun intended ) tantalus change, but that post really made me laugh, thanks bro!

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 13:17

What the actual frak. A grand total of six of our units got points changes, four of them being the Court of the Archon? None of our wargear got any changes?

Very disappointed right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 13:20

Well I mean Splinter Cannons and Shredders are perfectly priced right now, so what were they going to change?

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 13:57

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Well I mean Splinter Cannons and Shredders are perfectly priced right now, so what were they going to change?

I mean, they are not perfect, but having access to the brilliant and awesome Heatlance is sure a compensation !

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 13:59

I just got a call from the minister of the internet. Apparently the raw undiluted sarcasm of that last post has clogged the intertubes and broken the Internets.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 14:02

Looking on the (very faint) bright side, the Court does actually seem really appealing as an option now. Just stick them and an Archon in a Venom and fling them at the enemy.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Points in.. Vect is crying himself to sleep tonight   Sat Nov 25 2017, 14:07

It does force us to take an Archon though...

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