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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 05:45

Pretty disappointed. May shelve my dark eldar until we get a codex and play my mechanicus (lol cawl got buffed not nerfed).

Also plenty of the forge world changes are ridiculous or make no sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 06:17

Well, at least our Succubus might generate a couple of extra attacks with her compulsory weapon from turn 3 onwards, right?
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 06:22

@RedRegicide wrote:
bruh. That is so disappointing. I was so excited to rewrite my list with more units in it. Glad Courts are cheaper but man that stings.

You and me both bruv. I'm absolutely shocked hellion and readers didn't get a points decrease. I was honestly confident that GW would make some legitimate meta changing changes.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 14:12

So, with the chapter Approved changes how do y'all feel about using Corsair skyreavers and Cloud dancers as Hellions and Reavers?

I like to keep WYSIWYG so the most reasonable gear would be splinter cannons on skydancers and sparglaives on skyreavers with the rack of pistols being their splinter pods.

2 points more than a Reaver for triple the firepower, 7 points less than a hellion for obsec, better firepower, but lessrange and melee ability.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sun Nov 26 2017, 05:35

@the_scotsman wrote:
...7 points less than a hellion for obsec, better firepower, but lessrange and melee ability.

Sorry if I'm missing something or this reply sounds rude, but how do you figure corsairs can get ObSec? Didn't they say the faction keywords like Imperium, Chaos, and Aeldari were not enough to count? And from there corsairs are neither Drukhari nor Asuryani but "Anhrathe" so how can one make a detachment with only the three corsair units?
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sun Nov 26 2017, 05:39

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Sorry if I'm missing something or this reply sounds rude, but how do you figure corsairs can get ObSec?

Every Troops unit gets ObjSec in CA

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sun Nov 26 2017, 05:42

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Sorry if I'm missing something or this reply sounds rude, but how do you figure corsairs can get ObSec?

Every Troops unit gets ObjSec in CA

https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/40kChapApp_Boxout3kf.jpg

Sorry guys but not quite. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sun Nov 26 2017, 13:34

@Ubernoob1 wrote:
@TheBaconPope wrote:
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Sorry if I'm missing something or this reply sounds rude, but how do you figure corsairs can get ObSec?

Every Troops unit gets ObjSec in CA

https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/40kChapApp_Boxout3kf.jpg

Sorry guys but not quite. Sad

Ynnari counts as <faction> for some reason, so that's one possible way to get ObSec on them.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sun Nov 26 2017, 14:36

@Burnage wrote:
@Ubernoob1 wrote:
@TheBaconPope wrote:
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Sorry if I'm missing something or this reply sounds rude, but how do you figure corsairs can get ObSec?

Every Troops unit gets ObjSec in CA

https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/40kChapApp_Boxout3kf.jpg

Sorry guys but not quite. Sad

Ynnari counts as <faction> for some reason, so that's one possible way to get ObSec on them.

Except it has also been said that Ynnari can never gain ObSec either.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sun Nov 26 2017, 14:39

@Ubernoob1 wrote:
@Burnage wrote:
@Ubernoob1 wrote:
@TheBaconPope wrote:
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Sorry if I'm missing something or this reply sounds rude, but how do you figure corsairs can get ObSec?

Every Troops unit gets ObjSec in CA

https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/40kChapApp_Boxout3kf.jpg

Sorry guys but not quite. Sad

Ynnari counts as <faction> for some reason, so that's one possible way to get ObSec on them.

Except it has also been said that Ynnari can never gain ObSec either.

Hm, you're right - I was remembering that wrong. Ah well.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sun Nov 26 2017, 20:42

Well, on. He bright side my two armies are drukhari and tyranids. So I don't need to get the book!

With the relics, two have been rumoured but I'm yet to see the third. most other armies are rumoured for 3, so I'm assuming we are too. anyone know what it is?
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sun Nov 26 2017, 22:02

Does 'Aeldari' count as a faction keyword, for purposes of ObSec? It's quite clearly listed on each data sheet as a faction keyword, so is there any reason why you cannot take Ynarri, or multiple detachments (like one Drukhari detachment and one Asuryani detachment), use 'Aeldari' as your faction keyword for ObSec, and thus, give all of your troops ObSec?
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sun Nov 26 2017, 23:31

There is one bright side to this. I always wanted cheaper poison then scourges and warriors were there but their transports weren't worth it. Now I can 2 20 man warrior squads for lots of poison. Problem solved. That's about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sun Nov 26 2017, 23:53

@krayd wrote:
Does 'Aeldari' count as a faction keyword, for purposes of ObSec? It's quite clearly listed on each data sheet as a faction keyword, so is there any reason why you cannot take Ynarri, or multiple detachments (like one Drukhari detachment and one Asuryani detachment), use 'Aeldari' as your faction keyword for ObSec, and thus, give all of your troops ObSec?

Your troops wouldn't gain ObSec because of Aeldari; they will gain obsec because of being constructed as distinct Drukhari and Asuryani detachments. My understanding is that Aeldari does not qualify as a faction and thus if it's your keyword you don't get Obsec. so if you had a 3rd detachment with a mix of drukhari and asuryani units that detachment's troops wouldn't get obsec but the first two would. Up to 2k this really only matters if your running 3 battalions anyway. any other configuration can allocate troops better.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Mon Nov 27 2017, 12:08

@Dasook wrote:
It looks like they also increased the cost of the Tantalus to 400 points.

Where've you had that from? I read over the leaked images several times to make sure I hadn't missed anything. If you could point me in the direction of this info' that'd be appreciated.

Edit:

Found it. That's the only thing that's annoyed me quite frankly.............

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Mon Nov 27 2017, 13:59

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Your troops wouldn't gain ObSec because of Aeldari; they will gain obsec because of being constructed as distinct Drukhari and Asuryani detachments. My understanding is that Aeldari does not qualify as a faction and thus if it's your keyword you don't get Obsec. so if you had a 3rd detachment with a mix of drukhari and asuryani units that detachment's troops wouldn't get obsec but the first two would. Up to 2k this really only matters if your running 3 battalions anyway. any other configuration can allocate troops better.

Can you find a source for this? Is there any official written statement that you can only fill certain faction keywords in the <faction> slot, and not any?
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Tue Nov 28 2017, 07:45

It was mentioned in one of the 40k community talks way back about chapter approved, with a list of detachments that would get objective secured so space marines would not be the only ones having it.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Tue Nov 28 2017, 08:03

My recollection is that was how ITC had ruled things, i.e. no Objective Secured for Imperium or Aeldari as the Faction keyword. I don't think it is in the official rules as such.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Tue Nov 28 2017, 09:27

I'm sure I remember seeing a list but whether it was an official GW list of an ITC one I don't recall. Personally I don't see any issue with having ObjSec in an Ynnari army if you simply run one or more pure Drukhari or Asuryani detachments in addition to the mandatory Ynnari detachment (which won't get Obj Sec due to the presence of the Ynnari HQ).

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Tue Nov 28 2017, 10:08

@FuelDrop wrote:
Well, at least our Succubus might generate a couple of extra attacks with her compulsory weapon from turn 3 onwards, right?

If I took a succubus and rolled natural 6s I'm taking the the bonus hits. Maybe it will be FAQ'd. I'm going with the gods hoping that is RAI.


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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Tue Nov 28 2017, 10:22

Reading the comments section on the FLG review of Crapter Approved, this issue was raised a few times and Reese commented on various other questions but always avoided the question of the useless warlord trait. I can only hope that he knows something we don't (perhaps that the glaive will lose the -1 to hit in the future).

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Tue Nov 28 2017, 13:05

@Count Adhemar wrote:
Reading the comments section on the FLG review of Crapter Approved, this issue was raised a few times and Reese commented on various other questions but always avoided the question of the useless warlord trait. I can only hope that he knows something we don't (perhaps that the glaive will lose the -1 to hit in the future).

"The trait also applies to Lelith Hesperax who can most assuredly use it.

And the Succubus can exchange her Splinter Pistol for an Agoniser or Impaler….how can she not use the trait?" - Reeecius 2017

I wouldn't put any stock in these delightful characters who totally understand people's frustrations with not being and to use the succubus iconic weapon...

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Tue Nov 28 2017, 13:56

I still personally think the schmucks at FLG are to blame and curse their continued selling out.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Tue Nov 28 2017, 15:03

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@Count Adhemar wrote:
Reading the comments section on the FLG review of Crapter Approved, this issue was raised a few times and Reese commented on various other questions but always avoided the question of the useless warlord trait. I can only hope that he knows something we don't (perhaps that the glaive will lose the -1 to hit in the future).

"The trait also applies to Lelith Hesperax who can most assuredly use it.

And the Succubus can exchange her Splinter Pistol for an Agoniser or Impaler….how can she not use the trait?" - Reeecius 2017

Oh well, bang goes that theory then! Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Tue Nov 28 2017, 18:25

@Bad-baden-baden wrote:
@Count Adhemar wrote:
Reading the comments section on the FLG review of Crapter Approved, this issue was raised a few times and Reese commented on various other questions but always avoided the question of the useless warlord trait. I can only hope that he knows something we don't (perhaps that the glaive will lose the -1 to hit in the future).

"The trait also applies to Lelith Hesperax who can most assuredly use it.

And the Succubus can exchange her Splinter Pistol for an Agoniser or Impaler….how can she not use the trait?" - Reeecius 2017

I wouldn't put any stock in these delightful characters who totally understand people's frustrations with not being and to use the succubus iconic weapon...


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