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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Thu Nov 23 2017, 14:25

I doubt we'll have a point drop for dark lance and disintegrator, since it's already units we use. They'll lower the price cost of non-played units to make them competitive.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Thu Nov 23 2017, 14:30

@dumpeal wrote:
I doubt we'll have a point drop for dark lance and disintegrator, since it's already units we use. They'll lower the price cost of non-played units to make them competitive.

Whenever I see a post like this I realise how truly cynical I am about GW because my automatic assumption is that if we have something that is good and something that is poor, GW will nerf the good rather than buff the poor.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Thu Nov 23 2017, 15:01

@Count Adhemar wrote:
@dumpeal wrote:
I doubt we'll have a point drop for dark lance and disintegrator, since it's already units we use. They'll lower the price cost of non-played units to make them competitive.

Whenever I see a post like this I realise how truly cynical I am about GW because my automatic assumption is that if we have something that is good and something that is poor, GW will nerf the good rather than buff the poor.

I don't think they will nerf the lances. I only think they won't buff it.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Thu Nov 23 2017, 15:04

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I don't think they will nerf the lances. I only think they won't buff it.

Something to consider is that the Craftworlds kept their Bright Lances, an identical weapon, at 20 points when they got their codex.

What is there left to nerf for us? We don't really have anything outstandingly powerful, hell, I'd contend that we have barely a handful in the above average category.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Thu Nov 23 2017, 15:34

@TheBaconPope wrote:
iWhat is there left to nerf for us?

Kabalite points cost.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Thu Nov 23 2017, 17:09

@Burnage wrote:
@TheBaconPope wrote:
iWhat is there left to nerf for us?

Kabalite points cost.

Increase the HQ cost, because they are OP as they are.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Thu Nov 23 2017, 17:43

@dumpeal wrote:
@Burnage wrote:
@TheBaconPope wrote:
iWhat is there left to nerf for us?

Kabalite points cost.

Increase the HQ cost, because they are OP as they are.

Keep our vehicles base cost the same, but make Night Shields an upgrade for 15 points.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Thu Nov 23 2017, 20:43

Probably make Dark Lances AP-3, because it's undecent for xenos equipment to be better than Imperial equipment, and Lascannons are AP-3.

Of course, nobody will think about the fact that dark lances are S8 and not S9. Can't think of everything, can we ?

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Thu Nov 23 2017, 22:53

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Probably make Dark Lances AP-3, because it's undecent for xenos equipment to be better than Imperial equipment, and Lascannons are AP-3.

Of course, nobody will think about the fact that dark lances are S8 and not S9. Can't think of everything, can we ?

I'd trade our dark lance for lascannon anytime. Better strenght and greather range. What was making them relatively competitive compared to lascannon, in 7th was the reduced armor that made them SLIGHTLY better than lascannon against AV14 and worse against everything else.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Thu Nov 23 2017, 22:56

I had a little chuckle at the dark cynicism of our Archons. It's never too early to be disappointed about the next Dark Eldar release.

As an aside, I have been working through the process of doing the same analysis of points efficiency of damage for the Craftworlds Codex, as I did for the Drukhari index. With the points reductions for the Asuryani they typically have 3-4 options that are better than the best Drukhari option against every target. Some fairly substantial reductions across most of our options are required to be properly competitive with Codex armies.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Fri Nov 24 2017, 12:32

@dumpeal wrote:
I doubt we'll have a point drop for dark lance and disintegrator, since it's already units we use. They'll lower the price cost of non-played units to make them competitive.

Starcannons are the Eldar equivalent of Disintegrators, I would expect Dissies to drop to 15-20 pts
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Fri Nov 24 2017, 23:01

If they drop to the same price as dark lances I might take some.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 00:31

Just saw the points adjustments for Dark Eldar in the Chapter Approved leak. They tweaked the Court of the Archon models, that's it.

No, I'm not kidding. That was IT.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 00:33

Would it possible to find out where this information is from Angst? Unfortunately I must admit it does sound about the level of attention we are usually given
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 00:35

Spoiler:
 

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 00:39

I was hoping for something less official to be honest. I feel your pain on this one
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 00:45

Welp - Got to take a look today at the Warlord Traits, relics, and stratagems - and the rumors are true. So there is that...
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 00:48

Maybe this means we get a codex soon... Yeah... That's what's happening....
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 00:48

I am going to wrap a copy of Chapter Approved around a dog turd, rubberband it together, and ship it to Nottingham.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 00:53

bruh. That is so disappointing. I was so excited to rewrite my list with more units in it. Glad Courts are cheaper but man that stings.

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 01:05

Well that saves me a bunch of money. No need to bother with that rubbish!
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 02:57

What amazing changes! Now I can run the all Ur-Ghul army I've been dreaming of!

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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 03:04

It looks like they also increased the cost of the Tantalus to 400 points.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 03:05

Looking at that "drukhari" section with "my daddy gave me a name" by Weezer playing in my head.

Why bother at that point, lol? Just don't do anything with de.
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PostSubject: Re: Chapter Approved Rumors - warlord traits/relics/stratagems   Sat Nov 25 2017, 05:25

@Marrath wrote:
My other army is Tyranids, so i guess i'll just stick to them and their 20something stratagems and such until our full Codex hits.
And avoid this, seemingly half baked, cashgrab...
I was SO wrong!
It's not half baked, more like a lump of 100% raw dough, or worse... what TeenageAngst said.
Good thing is i actually thought about buying it, maybe, but that leak crushed that stupid notion.
Thanks for that

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