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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Wed Feb 07 2018, 01:12

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What 20 warriors do, 20 guardians do better though.

Ouch! Demz fighting words around my way. lol!

So sayeth Sean Nayden.

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Wed Feb 07 2018, 02:06

Yes, guardians do it better... because of all the sweet sweet shenanigans... but this is a Drukhari tactic after all, and they are still sweet.
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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Wed Feb 07 2018, 02:22

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Yes, guardians do it better... because of all the sweet sweet shenanigans... but this is a Drukhari tactic after all, and they are still sweet.

You're the one who brought Ynnari into it Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Wed Feb 07 2018, 02:39

And rending... and S4...

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Sat Feb 10 2018, 22:27

Minor tactical titbit - only ever give the Parasite's Kiss to an Archon or Haemonculus. Succubi do not have what it takes to wield this titanic instrument of godly wrath.
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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 01:46

@theShredder - I have been loving the parasites kiss on my sslyth... as he can take wounds for his archon and then regenerate.
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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 09:50

@Skari wrote:
@theShredder - I have been loving the parasites kiss on my sslyth... as he can take wounds for his archon and then regenerate.

I was about to comment that I still find it a bit weird to take artefacts on non-characters... then I remembered that Sslyth are characters now. Razz


Regardless, I really hope the Parasite's Kiss retains its current profile in our codex.


EDIT: Out of interest, do you have a preference between using the Parasite's Kiss on a Haemonculus and using it on an Archon?

(I know others can take it, like the aforementioned Sslyth, I'm just curious about which of those two you'd pick.)
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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 13:44

What is this Parasite Kiss and why can't I find it anywhere in the index?

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 14:02

Its in Chapter Approve.

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 14:03

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 14:06


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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 14:14

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 14:54

The Court got repriced, we got a nice Haemi warlord trait, a theoretically nice Succubus Warlord trait that she CAN’T USE WITH HER STANDARD LOADOUT UNTIL TURN THREE! (Might still be bitter about that one), and a decent all-rounder Warlord trait for any DRUKHARI CHARACTER.

We also got the aforementioned relic and a Webway Assault stratagem, same as the Harlies and the Craftworlders versions, bar differing names, meaning the three can be used in conjunction with one another.

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 16:14

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a theoretically nice Succubus Warlord trait that she CAN’T USE WITH HER STANDARD LOADOUT UNTIL TURN THREE! (Might still be bitter about that one)

I don't know about anyone else, but I always give my Succubus an Impaler. The damage 2 is very useful, and the loss of AP barely matters when most important characters have an Invn save. And if it would be better to use the glaive, she's still got it.
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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 16:22

@Voidhawk wrote:
@Ikol wrote:
a theoretically nice Succubus Warlord trait that she CAN’T USE WITH HER STANDARD LOADOUT UNTIL TURN THREE! (Might still be bitter about that one)

I don't know about anyone else, but I always give my Succubus an Impaler. The damage 2 is very useful, and the loss of AP barely matters when most important characters have an Invn save. And if it would be better to use the glaive, she's still got it.

I'd have thought the bigger issue would be going from S5 to S3.
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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 16:43

Yeah I can't see s3 2D resulting in more wounds than s5 ap-3. Yeah a lot of characters have an invul save, but it's a +4 or +5 at best in the majority of cases so that ap-3 still definetly matters. Maybe with the +1 strength drug the impaler is better but I think the only time the impaler would be better is when you're facing a character with a +3 invul save, in which case you're probably facing a tough character who is going to beat your succubus. I'd rather save pts and leave my succubus with the pistol.

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 16:45

@The Shredder wrote:
@Voidhawk wrote:
@Ikol wrote:
a theoretically nice Succubus Warlord trait that she CAN’T USE WITH HER STANDARD LOADOUT UNTIL TURN THREE! (Might still be bitter about that one)

I don't know about anyone else, but I always give my Succubus an Impaler. The damage 2 is very useful, and the loss of AP barely matters when most important characters have an Invn save. And if it would be better to use the glaive, she's still got it.

I'd have thought the bigger issue would be going from S5 to S3.

+1 Str drug. Strength 4 is fine in most cases, and Damage 2 with 5+ hit rolls generating 3 hits is great.
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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 17:13

Great if you're fighting a multi wound model with a low armor save, but a lot of characters have a +3 or +2 and with ap- you're not going to be doing much damage. Seems a bit situational.

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 17:15

Having a good AP is more situational than having multiwound when speaking about HQ hunting.

All HQs have multiple wounds, so D2 is always good. But AP-3 is useless against a lot of HQs, because of invulnerable saves.

The problem with D2 is that it doesn't help in clearing troops, but if you're talking about HQ hunting, it's definitly great.

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 17:22

Ap-3 really isn't useless against invulnerable saves, since if you're facing say a space marine captain in terminator armor he's going to have a +2 save vs the impaler but a +4 against the glaive, unless he has a storm shield in which case the succubus probably isn't going to beat him anyway.

I also tend to face marines more than any other army so I prefer the AP, but in a more balance meta I could see a better case for the impaler.

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 17:30

Okay, i see where your opinion comes from if you're facing mainly Marines ^^

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 17:35

Since the Impailer replaces her pistol, you could always take both weapons and decide which one to use at the time.
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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 18:10

Good point, not an either or argument we need to worry about.

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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 18:17

@Lord Asvaldir wrote:
Ap-3 really isn't useless against invulnerable saves,  since if you're facing say a space marine captain in terminator armor he's going to have a +2 save vs the impaler but a +4 against the glaive, unless he has a storm shield in which case the succubus probably isn't going to beat him anyway.

I also tend to face marines more than any other army so I prefer the AP, but in a more balance meta I could see a better case for the impaler.

The Impaler does have Ap-1, so the Terminator is 3+ not 2+ at least. And as others have said it replaces the pistol not the glaive, so it's about comparing it to a Blast Pistol, Agoniser, or the Kiss-pistol.

I find having a weapon that does twice as much damage, and hits 3 times on a 5+ with the warlord trait, is worth it over a single blast pistol shot (or nothing if you're further than 6" away).
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PostSubject: Re: Tactical Tidbits - Skaris Book of Wisdom   Mon Feb 12 2018, 18:57

@Skari wrote:
@theShredder - I have been loving the parasites kiss on my sslyth... as he can take wounds for his archon and then regenerate.

May I ask what your tactical use for the Archon is? I'd love to field him, but really struggle to justify his presence.

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