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PostSubject: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Wed Oct 11 2017, 21:45

Rumors saying Pre-orders start on 4th and in store the 11th (at least for the Rumors, it is Confirm that Nids are these dates)

Pic of starter

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22366633_10155530493040325_2034202909874336874_n.jpg?oh=d786d8023cadb0389c66665c1bc85681&oe=5A84D830

Yes this is "currently" not a legal detachment, but the Wraithlord could change the FoC for Wraiths OR there is a new detachment for this starter. We will just have to wait and see.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/10/15/coming-soon-a-new-codex-for-the-craftworlds/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/10/16/craftworld-focus-iyanden-oct-16gw-homepage-post-3/

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Wed Oct 11 2017, 21:50

So we should be seeing stuff on the community page in about 2 weeks I think ... Excitement!
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Thu Oct 12 2017, 01:57

Nice Smile

Can't wait to see what will they propose for us.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Thu Oct 12 2017, 04:00

Many agreed that the image they teased a few weeks back looked like a wrack tool. Maybe it is a coven box. 10 wracks, 3 grotesques (introducing new box set of 3 in plastic) and a haemonculus. I’d be down for that.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Fri Oct 13 2017, 14:39

I think that per-codex detachments are a thing of the past

What will probably happen is that Wraithguards/Blades will be fielded as a troop choice in an Iyanden army
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Fri Oct 13 2017, 21:26

Mm not really ... The codecies so far still use the BRB detachments ... They just get different rules for different <faction> keywords ... But the entire detachment has to be that faction ... And the need for "troops" isn't there anymore as on sec will extend to "Infantry" and not the 7th Ed definition of "troops" so that means anything; elites, troops, fast attack, that have the <Infantry> designation would get ob sec, granted I haven't seen anything about this other than rumors ... But that's my take away on it, so Wraithguard/blades wouldn't need a battlefield role change from "elite" to "troops" (I don't know of any army that does this in the current edition anyway so...)
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Fri Oct 13 2017, 22:41

Our Wracks moved from Elite to Troops, if i remember correctly.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Fri Oct 13 2017, 22:55

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Mm not really ... The codecies so far still use the BRB detachments ... They just get different rules for different <faction> keywords ... But the entire detachment has to be that faction ... And the need for "troops" isn't there anymore as on sec will extend to "Infantry" and not the 7th Ed definition of "troops" so that means anything; elites, troops, fast attack, that have the <Infantry> designation would get ob sec, granted I haven't seen anything about this other than rumors ... But that's my take away on it, so Wraithguard/blades wouldn't need a battlefield role change from "elite" to "troops" (I don't know of any army that does this in the current edition anyway so...)

To use the start collection as a stand alone box, in Match play as of right now it is an illegal force, that is why we were talking about it and thinking something will change or be added.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Fri Oct 13 2017, 23:05

Not with the unbound army detachment ... But I see your point. .. they might have made them troop choices in the codex ... If so, Awesome!
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Fri Oct 13 2017, 23:13

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Not with the unbound army detachment ... But I see your point. .. they might have made them troop choices in the codex ... If so, Awesome!

Match play doesnt have unbound army.

BUT with that said... gw is kinda wanting players to use Power Levels and the starter mission "Only War". If it is suggest to do this, then yes it is a fully legal army.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Sat Oct 14 2017, 08:10

Archon_91 wrote:
Mm not really ... The codecies so far still use the BRB detachments ... They just get different rules for different <faction> keywords ... But the entire detachment has to be that faction ... And the need for "troops" isn't there anymore as on sec will extend to "Infantry" and not the 7th Ed definition of "troops" so that means anything; elites, troops, fast attack, that have the <Infantry> designation would get ob sec, granted I haven't seen anything about this other than rumors ... But that's my take away on it, so Wraithguard/blades wouldn't need a battlefield role change from "elite" to "troops" (I don't know of any army that does this in the current edition anyway so...)


With per-codex detachments I was referring to detachments specific to one codex like the Eldar Warhost or the Necron Decurion

The Objective Secured rule in Chapter Approved will target Troops not Infantry units. So switching Wraithguards/blades to Troops (if this happen) will give Iyanden a big edge and will make the start collecting box valid for a Patrol detachment
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Sun Oct 15 2017, 19:35


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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Sun Oct 15 2017, 21:07

Pretty sweet special rule for Iyanden Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Sun Oct 15 2017, 23:59

"Next week also sees the Triumvirate of Ynnead repackaged for the new edition. As well as three awesome character models, this set contains full datasheets for everything inside, as well rules for fielding Ynnari detachments in your army, meaning you won’t need anything else to use them with your Craftworlds codex!"

I assume this means there won't be an Ynnari Codex and the rules are just the ones from the Index?
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 00:21

Hellstrom wrote:
"Next week also sees the Triumvirate of Ynnead repackaged for the new edition. As well as three awesome character models, this set contains full datasheets for everything inside, as well rules for fielding Ynnari detachments in your army, meaning you won’t need anything else to use them with your Craftworlds codex!"

I assume this means there won't be an Ynnari Codex and the rules are just the ones from the Index?

This is actually really disappointing, if so. It means the Ynnari are going to wind up being weaker than the Codex armies as they'll always have to take a detachment without any strategies or doctrines.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 02:57

Mm the way I read that is basically I stead of giving the Ynnari a full blown codex they made a mini codex that they will put into the new box set for the ynnari triumvirate that will include updated rules that will put them on par with the codecies and will probably have a couple stratagems but will also say "can use Codex: Craftworld and (eventually) Codex:Druhkari stratagems" or something like that
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 03:14

Im ok with no Ynnari Codex honestly.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 03:17

Burnage wrote:

This is actually really disappointing, if so. It means the Ynnari are going to wind up being weaker than the Codex armies as they'll always have to take a detachment without any strategies or doctrines.

I don't understand why that would be.  If this is related to how keywords work I'm confident the designers will write rules to accommodate them. Likewise the Ynnari can have their own list of Stratagems unique to them.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 03:36

The Ynnari rules must be the ones from the Index or else they'll also be made available elsewhere. I can't imagine forcing players who already have the Ynnari triumvirate to buy those models again just to get the current rules.

None of this means no Ynnari codex. Just no Ynnari codex right now.

And while I care about the Ynnari pretty much not at all, I'm all manner of excited about what the Craftworlds might be getting back! Saim Hann Wildriders and Chiefs? Alaitoc Pathfinders? The Court of the Young King? I'm all atingle.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 06:12

I'm slightly disappointed that the announcement specifically mentions there being 5 craftworld traits in the new book. I was hoping that they would add one or two more to the big 5... like, say, Altansar.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 08:05

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I'm slightly disappointed that the announcement specifically mentions there being 5 craftworld traits in the new book. I was hoping that they would add one or two more to the big 5... like, say, Altansar.

It was obvious, that they will do traits and stuff for big five only. But i think they will mention, that if you want to play different craftworld, you have to pick one of traits in the book.

And i was hoping for Altansar rules as well... Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 08:16

Wouldnt it be nice if they did traits for smaller craftworlds, chapters, warbands and Regiments as web releases? No relics or special strategems even, just a trait for them. It would not require much work tbh.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 08:23

Yeah, you'd think they could have fleshed out one or two of the other Craftworlds in addition to the five major ones, considering they just blew one of those five major ones up.

But just getting the rules for those five (or four and a fraction?) Craftworlds again is so good and so overdue that I can't bring myself to be disappointed.

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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 08:59

The ynnari getting their rules repackaged in their box doesn't point to much for me tbh, it just means that a cwe player doesn't have to buy the index and the codex to field a ynnari army in the future.
It does raise the question of how long it may be until they get their own stratagems and fun stuff as why would you go to the effort of repackaging just to change the rules and packaging shortly after that time.
But then this could be just the stratagems released online without any points cost/rule alterations for the models
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar soon, new Starter "OFFICIAL DATE" and Iyanden Focus   Mon Oct 16 2017, 10:29

Wait.....five?

The Facebokok post says SEVEN.
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