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PostSubject: 1250pt Ynnari TAC list   Sat Sep 02 2017, 22:24

Usually I'm a full drukhari player, and I'd love to stand by that, but the hq tax and PfP's abject uselessness ( that 6fnp save hasn't helped me yet) have push me to give the Ynnari a go.

So here is the list.

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Ynnari) [67 PL, 1248pts] ++

+ HQ +

Yvraine [7 PL, 132pts]

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [3 PL, 35pts]
. 4x Kabalite Warrior
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Kabalite Trueborn [5 PL, 108pts]
. Dracon: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Trueborn
. Kabalite Trueborn with Special Weapon: Blaster
. Trueborn with Heavy Weapon: Splinter Cannon
. Trueborn with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance

Kabalite Trueborn [5 PL, 108pts]
. Dracon: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Trueborn
. Kabalite Trueborn with Special Weapon: Blaster
. Trueborn with Heavy Weapon: Splinter Cannon
. Trueborn with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance

Kabalite Trueborn [5 PL, 90pts]
. Dracon: Splinter Rifle
. 2x Kabalite Trueborn
. Trueborn with Heavy Weapon: Splinter Cannon
. Trueborn with Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance

+ Fast Attack +

Scourges [6 PL, 70pts]
. 4x Scourge
. Solarite: Shardcarbine

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [8 PL, 155pts]: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

+ Flyer +

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]: 2 Dark Lances, Twin splinter rifle

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]: 2 Dark Lances, Twin splinter rifle

+ Dedicated Transport +

Venom [4 PL, 80pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 80pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 80pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

++ Total: [67 PL, 1248pts] ++

The idea is the razorwings deploy on either side of the army withy the single squad to 5warriors at the front as bubble wrap.

When possible the majority of my units stay at 18 inches from the enemy and kite as much as possible, whittling down a smaller section of the enemy army.

The scourges are a maelstrom objective taker and harassment unit for infantry. I'm not really sure of them!

The meta in my area is hoard and big stuff, so guard, Tele orks, and big guys like Gillyman. I'm not sure I have enough guns to stop a hoard army, but then I'm not sure how to give myself enough guns to do that either, and hence one of the reasons I have two rwjf's rather than my preferred ravagers

What do you guys think? I'd be very interested in your feedback
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PostSubject: Re: 1250pt Ynnari TAC list   Tue Sep 05 2017, 00:43

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PostSubject: Re: 1250pt Ynnari TAC list   Tue Sep 05 2017, 08:54

Feels like you're playing drukhari with an ynnari leader.

To get the best from sfd you should be getting smallish squads that you're happy to die and trigger souls burst with others.

I've gone with 5 man kabalite squads with a blaster as a cheap footslogging fodder but with a little damage output for a round or two.

Following up with Incubi are a good way to deal some damage especially with the weaker kabalites getting into the fray.
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PostSubject: Re: 1250pt Ynnari TAC list   Tue Sep 05 2017, 10:24

Beasts also can be great with soulburst, especially Clawed fiends Smile

And maybe go for another Scourge squad, but with DL/Blasters ? Soulburst is really good on them.

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PostSubject: Re: 1250pt Ynnari TAC list   Tue Sep 05 2017, 11:16

It is definitely true that this is a de list led by a ynnari hq.
I haven't found the PfP abilities very useful in my last few games, especially with a more shooting oriented list.
Also, this way I avoid the HQ tax of the normal DE (admittedly by paying more than double for an Hq) that can have a force multiplier effect on my squads and vehicles.
It is a good point you make about usefulness of the scourges with a ynnari list, and the amount of damage they can dish out, when being able to fire twice a turn or more. I don't own any more right now, but I will have to think about getting more of them.

What do you like about clawed fiends and sfd?

Having not used ynnari before, what do you find is the best way to make use of sfd in general?
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PostSubject: Re: 1250pt Ynnari TAC list   Tue Sep 05 2017, 12:59

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What do you like about clawed fiends and sfd?

They are both :
- Good candidates for a SFD action (charge, or have another attack round), since they hurt really hard.
- They are expendables and can be fielded in small squads for more SFD actions.

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PostSubject: Re: 1250pt Ynnari TAC list   Wed Sep 06 2017, 08:26

Interesting points on my current use, or lack of optimised use of sfd. This is all going to have to effect my list building once I can get my head around it! The restrictions are interesting with how they alter what you do and how you attempt to get a chain rolling.

I just read the FAQ, and the changes to the word of the phoenix rules and their restrictions, that changes my ideas a lot, I hadn't realised that I couldn't soulburst vehicles any more. In fact it seems I couldn't do it to a beast anymore either as they are not <Infantry> or <Bikes> or a Yncarne.

It really means I need to have at least one squad of footdar on the board at any time in order to get anything out of sfd if a ravager or a RWJF goes down, which for my current "DE lead by Yvraine" list is quite a jump to the left.
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PostSubject: Re: 1250pt Ynnari TAC list   Thu Sep 07 2017, 16:04

How can beasts benefit from SfD? They are not Ynaari Infantry. They are just a ynnari "unit".
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PostSubject: Re: 1250pt Ynnari TAC list   Thu Sep 07 2017, 18:00

@Lyceus wrote:
How can beasts benefit from SfD? They are not Ynaari Infantry. They are just a ynnari "unit".

Woopsy...

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PostSubject: Re: 1250pt Ynnari TAC list   Fri Sep 08 2017, 04:15

@masamune wrote:
Beasts also can be great with soulburst, especially Clawed fiends Smile

And maybe go for another Scourge squad, but with DL/Blasters ? Soulburst is really good on them.

Beasts aren't Bikes or Infantry i didn't think they could Soulburst.

EDIT oops how the heck did I miss this being discussed literally right above. Mods you can take this post down
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