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PostSubject: Drukhari 500 pts   Fri Aug 04 2017, 00:48

I heard that 500 pts make a good starting point so here is my first list ever for Drukhari and W40K in general. Please forgive me if there are obvious mistakes. All advices are welcome.

HQ

- Archon  : 76 pts
Blaster, Phantasm grenade launcher , Agoniser

TROOPS

- Kabalite Warriors  (5) : 53 pts
Blaster, Phantasm Grenade Launcher
Venom  : 80 pts

- Kabalite Warriors  (5) : 53 pts
Blaster, Phantasm Grenade Launcher
Venom  : 80 pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

- Ravager  : 156 pts
Shock prow

Total : 498 pts

Nothing fancy as you can see. I wanted something as simple and balanced as possible. However I would have some questions :

- Is a Ravager too much here ? It takes almost 1/3 of my list but I'm afraid to lack serious answers if someone shows up with a big guy...

- Should I give my Kabalite Warriors an Agonizer instead of a Phantasm Grenade Launcher ? As far as I understood they aren't made for CC and I should avoid it as much as possible. They will mostly fly around, shoot at infantry and hopefully grab objectives at the end. That's why I think the PGL is more suitable here.  But is the -1 to leadership really relevant ? Knowing that CC will happen anyway maybe should I rather pick an agonizer instead. Third option would be to strip my Archon and give my Kabalites both options...

- Should I give my Archon a transport or is he fine by foot?

Sorry if the answers are obvious. I'm still new to all of this. The plan is to increase my list by 250 pts each month while keeping the same base in order to minimize the costs. Do you think such list would make a good first step ?

Thank you for your help

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PostSubject: Re: Drukhari 500 pts   Fri Aug 04 2017, 00:59

Every unit that suffers a casualty in a turn takes a moral check at the end right? That -1 is a 9% increase in likelihood to erase a model at the end of the turn. On top of that the shooting attack is d3 attacks and at s1 hits still wound 18% of the time... against everything.

This is ignoring the best part: You either throw a grenade, shoot with all pistols, or shoot with all none pistols. A grenade launcher is not a grenade, nor a pistol therefore a sgt with a phantasm grenade launcher and a splinter rifle shoots both.

PGL's are autotakes imo.
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PostSubject: Re: Drukhari 500 pts   Fri Aug 04 2017, 20:12

Seconded. PGLs are auto takes for Kabal units. I've been very impressed with them so far. I would be concerned with how many points the Ravager takes up and have a compromise that gives you a few more bodies and similar amount of anti tank.

Patrol

HQ
Archon
- Agoniser
- PGL
- Blaster
Total : 76

Troops
X2 5 Kabalites
- Blaster
- Pgl
- Venom
Total : 266

Auxiliary Support detachment
4 Trueborn
-X2 Blaster
-Agoniser
-Venom
Total: 158
Total: 500 points

Now obviously it's not a Ravager, but you get an extra two blasters. It was better before the changes to understrength units having to be an auxiliary detachment came in though.

Another option is something like this:

Patrol detachment

HQ
Archon
- Agoniser
- PGL
- Blaster
Total : 76

X2 5 Kabalites
- Blaster
- Venom
Total : 260

5 Kabalites
- Blast pistol
- Agoniser
- Raider
Total: 164

Total: 500 points

You get an extra CP compared to the last list and get a dark lance, but you lose the PGLs and the added fire of the 3rd Venom. A lot of what you face at 500 points will be heavily infantry focused lists, so I personally prefer the first list even if it looks a little unorthodox, but it's up to you.

EDIT: Completely missed out the fact that your Archon was on foot, which is not something I would recommend. It can be okay to footslog our characters in higher points when you have more stuff to bubble wrap them with, but I would always recommend putting them in a transport anyway especially at lower points costs. Definitely not a bad list especially for a first attempt though!

Edit the second: I think either your own list or either of the lists I specified are reasonable to start and grow a force. Although IMO the second I made is probably better for someone just starting out, as it focuses on getting basic Troops and transports, which is the Dark eldar bread and butter. Ravagers will serve you well at 750 and onwards, but the transports and Kabalites are invaluable IMO. To keep costs down you should check ebay and buy and sell pages regularly. We aren't the most popular army, so it can be easy enough to save a bit of money here and there if you're thrifty especially when you're starting out and a lot of different bundles of units are going to be useful for you. Alternatively if you want to get brand new stuff, you could get a start collecting dark eldar, a box of Kabalite warriors and two Venoms. That gives you everything you need for either of rhe lists I mentioned + 5 Kabalites spare for going forward. The start collecting box essentially gets you 3 free Reavers and some money off the rest of the stuff in the box, which is honesty quite good to start out!
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