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PostSubject: 2k point wych cult list   Mon Jul 24 2017, 13:21

Hey guys, this is my first drukhari list and I was wondering if you guys would give me your opinions on my potential army. I already own most of this list due to sharing with a family member. However, I don't have the tantalus or the fliers yet. my plan for the drugs is to give the succubus the +1 ws drug, the bloodbrides get the extra attack drugs, the reavers get the +1 toughness drug, one wych squad gets the +1 strength drug while the other gets the leadership one, and finally the two hellion squads both get the movement drug.

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [78 PL, 1496pts] ++

+ HQ [4 PL, 72pts] +

Succubus [4 PL, 72pts]: Splinter pistol

+ Troops [12 PL, 212pts] +

Wyches [6 PL, 106pts]
. Hekatrix [13pts]: Agoniser [4pts], Splinter pistol
. 6x Wych [54pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]

Wyches [6 PL, 106pts]
. Hekatrix [13pts]: Agoniser [4pts], Splinter pistol
. 6x Wych [54pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]

+ Elites [7 PL, 146pts] +

Hekatrix Bloodbrides [7 PL, 146pts]
. 6x Hekatrix Bloodbride [78pts]
. Hekatrix Bloodbride with Wych Weapon [17pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Hekatrix Bloodbride with Wych Weapon [17pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Hekatrix Bloodbride with Wych Weapon [17pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Syren [17pts]: Agoniser [4pts], Splinter pistol

+ Fast Attack [25 PL, 485pts] +

Hellions [5 PL, 85pts]
. Helliarch [17pts]: Hellglaive
. 4x Hellion [68pts]

Hellions [5 PL, 85pts]
. Helliarch [17pts]: Hellglaive
. 4x Hellion [68pts]

Reavers [15 PL, 315pts]
. Arena Champion [30pts]
. 5x Reaver [150pts]
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models) [45pts]: Blaster [15pts]
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models) [45pts]: Blaster [15pts]
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models) [45pts]: Blaster [15pts]

+ Heavy Support [18 PL, 350pts] +

Tantalus [18 PL, 350pts]

+ Dedicated Transport [12 PL, 231pts] +

Raider [6 PL, 116pts]: Dark Lance [20pts], Shock Prow [1pts]

Raider [6 PL, 115pts]: Dark Lance [20pts]

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [25 PL, 504pts] ++

+ Flyer [25 PL, 504pts] +

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]: 2 Dark Lances [40pts], Twin splinter rifle

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]: 2 Dark Lances [40pts], Twin splinter rifle

Voidraven [9 PL, 194pts]: Two dark scythes, Voidraven Missiles [25pts]

++ Total: [103 PL, 2000pts] ++
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PostSubject: Re: 2k point wych cult list   Mon Jul 24 2017, 22:24

Voidravens can really hurt you, so Im glad to see you using it.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on the Hellions. What are you planning to do with them?

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PostSubject: Re: 2k point wych cult list   Tue Jul 25 2017, 05:57

Looks to me like you have one of the Wych squads and your Succubus not riding in any kind of transport as you only have two raiders. This could prove challenging for them to get across the board and into combat without dying.

Also, you are using an outrider detachment but only have three fast attack choices. You could drop three of the Reaver jetbikes and take a second Succubus and then it would become a battalion for three command points instead of one. Dropping one of the Hellion squads would then also allow a third Raider for your Wyches.

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PostSubject: Re: 2k point wych cult list   Tue Jul 25 2017, 09:16

I plan on using the hellions as a counter to strong infantry like terminators. From what I've seen that glaive they have with its 2 damage can put out a lot of hurt on them. As for the the transport concerns the tantalus can transport 16 infantry or incubus units. The plan was to put the blood brides and the succubus in that and let the two wych squads have the raiders. However, I do like the idea of using a battalion instead of an outrider detachment and I think I will actually make those changes.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k point wych cult list   Tue Jul 25 2017, 11:35

@Sanore wrote:
I plan on using the hellions as a counter to strong infantry like terminators. From what I've seen that glaive they have with its 2 damage can put out a lot of hurt on them. As for the the transport concerns the tantalus can transport 16 infantry or incubus units. The plan was to put the blood brides and the succubus in that and let the two wych squads have the raiders. However, I do like the idea of using a battalion instead of an outrider detachment and I think I will actually make those changes.
With their lack of AP, i doubt that's a good plan. You'll deliver at most 16 attacks, 13 of which will hit home, so roughly 6-7 wounds. You can expect one termie to die. And you have little chances of surviving the ripost.

You're fielding a VR bomber, so maybe you can use the hellions to finish off a squad of termies wounded by the bomb.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k point wych cult list   Wed Jul 26 2017, 12:56

So after taking all of your suggestions into consideration, I've come up with two alternate lists that are very similar. The first has an extra vr bomber and the dissie cannons on almost all the vehicles that can take them the other while the other trades that extra jetfighter and most of the dissie cannons for an +1 cp  and an extra ravager.


++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [34 PL, 738pts] ++

+ Flyer [34 PL, 738pts] +

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 175pts]: 2 Disintegrator Cannons [60pts], Twin splinter rifle

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 175pts]: 2 Disintegrator Cannons [60pts], Twin splinter rifle

Voidraven [9 PL, 194pts]: Two dark scythes, Voidraven Missiles [25pts]

Voidraven [9 PL, 194pts]: Two dark scythes, Voidraven Missiles [25pts]

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [64 PL, 1261pts] ++

+ HQ [8 PL, 152pts] +

Succubus [4 PL, 76pts]: Agoniser [4pts]

Succubus [4 PL, 76pts]: Agoniser [4pts]

+ Troops [18 PL, 321pts] +

Wyches [6 PL, 106pts]
. Hekatrix [13pts]: Agoniser [4pts], Splinter pistol
. 6x Wych [54pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]

Wyches [6 PL, 109pts]
. Hekatrix [16pts]: Agoniser [4pts], Phantasm Grenade Launcher [3pts], Splinter pistol
. 6x Wych [54pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]

Wyches [6 PL, 106pts]
. Hekatrix [13pts]: Agoniser [4pts], Splinter pistol
. 6x Wych [54pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]

+ Heavy Support [26 PL, 536pts] +

Ravager [8 PL, 186pts]: Disintegrator cannon [30pts], Disintegrator cannon [30pts], Disintegrator cannon [30pts], Shock Prow [1pts]

Tantalus [18 PL, 350pts]

+ Dedicated Transport [12 PL, 252pts] +

Raider [6 PL, 126pts]: Disintegrator cannon [30pts], Shock Prow [1pts]

Raider [6 PL, 126pts]: Disintegrator cannon [30pts], Shock Prow [1pts]

++ Total: [98 PL, 1999pts] ++

Or

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [38 PL, 703pts] ++

+ HQ [8 PL, 152pts] +

Succubus [4 PL, 76pts]: Agoniser [4pts]

Succubus [4 PL, 76pts]: Agoniser [4pts]

+ Troops [18 PL, 321pts] +

Wyches [6 PL, 106pts]
. Hekatrix [13pts]: Agoniser [4pts], Splinter pistol
. 6x Wych [54pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]

Wyches [6 PL, 109pts]
. Hekatrix [16pts]: Agoniser [4pts], Phantasm Grenade Launcher [3pts], Splinter pistol
. 6x Wych [54pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]

Wyches [6 PL, 106pts]
. Hekatrix [13pts]: Agoniser [4pts], Splinter pistol
. 6x Wych [54pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]
. Wych with Wych Weapon [13pts]: Hydra gauntlets [4pts]

+ Dedicated Transport [12 PL, 230pts] +

Raider [6 PL, 115pts]: Dark Lance [20pts]

Raider [6 PL, 115pts]: Dark Lance [20pts]

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [25 PL, 504pts] ++

+ Flyer [25 PL, 504pts] +

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]: 2 Dark Lances [40pts], Twin splinter rifle

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]: 2 Dark Lances [40pts], Twin splinter rifle

Voidraven [9 PL, 194pts]: Two dark scythes, Voidraven Missiles [25pts]

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [38 PL, 793pts] ++

+ HQ [4 PL, 73pts] +

Archon [4 PL, 73pts]: Agoniser [4pts], Blaster [15pts]

+ Heavy Support [34 PL, 720pts] +

Ravager [8 PL, 185pts]: Disintegrator cannon [30pts], Disintegrator cannon [30pts], Disintegrator cannon [30pts]

Ravager [8 PL, 185pts]: Disintegrator cannon [30pts], Disintegrator cannon [30pts], Disintegrator cannon [30pts]

Tantalus [18 PL, 350pts]

++ Total: [101 PL, 2000pts] ++

I feel partial to the first one because I personally think dissie cannons are more versatile over dlances and I the VR bomber is my second favorite model in this army (second only to the tantalus).

also the archon is interchangeable with another succubus, but since I only have two succubuses and the last combat drug is meh at best I opted to use the archon because I already have him and IIRC ravagers don't have the cult tag while they do have the kabal tag.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k point wych cult list   Wed Jul 26 2017, 17:36

@Sanore wrote:
I plan on using the hellions as a counter to strong infantry like terminators. From what I've seen that glaive they have with its 2 damage can put out a lot of hurt on them. As for the the transport concerns the tantalus can transport 16 infantry or incubus units. The plan was to put the blood brides and the succubus in that and let the two wych squads have the raiders. However, I do like the idea of using a battalion instead of an outrider detachment and I think I will actually make those changes.

They would not be a "gfreat" answer to Terminators but they ARE a gret answer to a lot of multiwound models that arent as tough. Primaris Marines for example with their multiple wounds wont like the Hellions very much. Razorwing Flocks and sio on will all find the muti-wounding hellions not to be too fun. But definitely dont aim your hellions at a Terminator unit.

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