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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Sun Jul 16 2017, 12:55

BOLS over exaggerate tho.... they are talking about 1 local club that for all we know arent even playing correctly....

I mean most people has been playing cover wrong from what i've seen before the FAQ.

Ive only lost like 6-7 out of 30 games, and ive gone 2nd almost every game..... 11% my ass.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Sun Jul 16 2017, 13:35

Well I cannot but confirm what was written on BOLS. Comparing lists of similar strength and players of similar skill ofc.

In addition to this - around here armies that have few drops are largely FW-heavy elite armies in the hands of people who know what they are doing. That alone intimidates players to the point of defensive play. Most ppl see Fire Raptor and go "OMFG! Half of my army is dead T1!".
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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Sun Jul 16 2017, 13:43

Again... we dont know if they even know the rules well enough to be a good judge.

Its 1 local that has no batreps or lists for those games, we dont know how many are "trying out" new things, we dont know if they are playing with correctly rules or even knows the other players rules enough to make a good tactical plan.

Im just saying BOLS extremely over exaggerated this one local problems and made it a world problem.

Our local has no problems and we actually feel ITC changing the rules to "player with smaller army only gets +1 to the 1st turn roll" is more hurtful to the game than just going 1st (At least from our Experiences so far).

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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Sun Jul 16 2017, 15:57

My experimces so far have not supported the BOLS conclusion that Seize wins you the game.
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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Sun Jul 16 2017, 18:53

BoLS isn't exactly a good place to get good information from. That seems to also be the most whiney crowd on the Internet for nerd related stuff.


I think I will be playing the reaper as my 3rd ravager. It is slight cheaper. Has more wounds which is great, more attacks in combat and a more versatile gun.

The potential to get 5 or 6 Lance shots is really good. Especially when not in the move. Rolling a 4+ for the number of shots you get from the reaper make it as good or better than a ravager on the move. And better when not moving. I really like the little extra something that is brings to the army.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Mon Jul 17 2017, 10:15

@colinsherlow wrote:
BoLS isn't exactly a good place to get good information from. That seems to also be the most whiney crowd on the Internet for nerd related stuff.


I think I will be playing the reaper as my 3rd ravager. It is slight cheaper. Has more wounds which is great, more attacks in combat and a more versatile gun.

The potential to get 5 or 6 Lance shots is really good. Especially when not in the move. Rolling a 4+ for the number of shots you get from the reaper make it as good or better than a ravager on the move. And better when not moving. I really like the little extra something that is brings to the army.

As of this moment, I feel that our heavy support slot(i.e:Ravagers) are actually the only slots that matter. With Dissie Ravagers, we have the best anti-infantry gun that works as anti light vehicle and MCs on a dime, while triple lance Ravagers are as always our best shot at killing MCs and vehicles in a quick manner. The Reaper only further alleviate it by providing us with the more temperamental but significantly more powerful Vortex gun which can complement both types of ravagers at a dime.

As stupid as it goes, I personally just want to use ravagers in this edition as it is the most versatile Dark Eldar tool that we have, and poison is kinda moot when you could have Dissies and Lances en-mass. Only time I would see poison being awesome is when a particular MC is like T15 and above.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Mon Jul 17 2017, 18:26

I play with either a Tantalus or Starweavers, so i dont use Dis Cannon Ravagers.

I keep thinking about taking Tantalus and 3 Reapers with a Haemonculus tho. I think i will next game let you know how it goes.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Tue Jul 18 2017, 09:30

@amishprn86 wrote:
I play with either a Tantalus or Starweavers, so i dont use Dis Cannon Ravagers.

I keep thinking about taking Tantalus and 3 Reapers with a Haemonculus tho. I think i will next game let you know how it goes.

That is provided if you have got the dough to throw into FW(for the former) and play Ynnari/clowns(for the latter).

But Dissies with their 2 damage makes a world of difference, and now I started to like them a lot, with the tri-lance Ravs/Reapers cracking open the transports/hurting the MC and the Dissies killing the passengers/finishing the MCs off.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Tue Jul 18 2017, 10:54

Where do you put the Dissis at?

The D2 of them doesn´t matter against most troops. Sadly.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Tue Jul 18 2017, 12:18

@CptMetal wrote:
Where do you put the Dissis at?

The D2 of them doesn´t matter against most troops. Sadly.

This ^ i dont need 2D AI 99% the time. If swarms, bikes and termies where very popular i i might look into doing that as Ynnari.... But as Ynnari i'd go Specters and Blaster spam, sense i could dbl shoot.

And if you havent played Specters in Ynnari yet.... its insane lol.

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PostSubject: Re: Reaper better than a Ravager?   Wed Jul 19 2017, 09:53

@CptMetal wrote:
Where do you put the Dissis at?

The D2 of them doesn´t matter against most troops. Sadly.

Ravagers for me is the best platform for Dissies.

I guess it is the meta in my area these days where more vehicles of the ground and flying variant and also the prevalence of multiple wound models running around, especially MCs and behicles.

Dissies can do double time as sweeper units to kill off very badly injured models. If you can spare the shots, and they generally bring down

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