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PostSubject: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 06:18

Recently, I've come into bit of a quandary so far as my 1850 list is concerned. I have a combined Harlequin and Drukhari list - mostly Drukhari - and have just enough room for either some Mandrakes (Around ten of them) or a Solitaire. I'm having trouble deciding and I was wondering what you all would take if given the same choice and why?
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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 07:24

Depends on the rest of the list. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 07:51

This is my 1500 point list and the eventual list I'm building is 1850 or so. Gonna add some Skyweavers and I'm on the fence about pretty much everything else.

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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 08:06

You have very few lances. Are you sure you do not want to add Ravager instead of another melee unit? How would you play agains Rhino Rush or Knights?
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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 08:14

@aurynn wrote:
You have very few lances. Are you sure you do not want to add Ravager
He does have 2 skyweavers. Never tested them, but they are supposed to be AT duty ?
But anyway, i agree. A ravager would help this list more than a Solitaire or 10 mandrakes.
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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 08:29

Skyweavers are not AT, they are T1 chargers.
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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 09:26

In my area meta, no one really saturates the field with vehicles. I figured the Two Raiders, the Razorwing and the Harlies with Fusion Pistols would probably be enough. I'm more concerned with how to kill off things like Gulliman and Celestine. A friend of mine likes to run REALLY small armies with intensely hard to kill models. I guess he thinks he's being clever, lol.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I will soon have a Tantalus as well. That's a bucket load of anti-armor. That will be going into the list and will likely replace the Raiders.
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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 10:33

Lucky you... As for Guiliman and Celestine - She gets about, so is easy to shoot even with the respawn. Guiliman tactic is usually ignore and let him chase you.
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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 12:10

Run Both!

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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 16:32

Isn't 10 mandrakes double the cost of the solitaire?

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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 20:24

Solitare is a great character assassin. Other than that, I find his damage a bit lack-luster. Perhaps as a means to pull a unit away from a character buff - but otherwise he is ok. Mandrakes on the other hand have shooting and decent assault. I really think it depends on what role you want to fill. More CC or more daka
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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Sun Jul 09 2017, 23:40

Solitaire is 115 ish (give or take a couple points so mods dont X it out), so thats the cost of 6 mandrakes.

Solitaire is basically a unit of Troupes with Kiss/Caress that you pick what you want to use so think of him like that.

Skyweavers for that discussion are AMAZING at Move > Shoot > Charge > Fallback > Shoot > Charge > Repeat.

I've tided up 3 highly damaging tanks for 5 turns against a SM player with Skyweavers while shooting his Devastators.

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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Mon Jul 10 2017, 06:07

@amishprn86 wrote:
I've tided up 3 highly damaging tanks for 5 turns against a SM player with Skyweavers while shooting his Devastators.

I bet he was pleased. Trollolololol.
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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Mon Jul 10 2017, 06:52

Can't you drop 2 Reaver's and one Splinter Cannon from the venom then run both

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PostSubject: Re: Solitaire or Mandrakes?   Mon Jul 10 2017, 11:58

@Painjunky wrote:
@amishprn86 wrote:
I've tided up 3 highly damaging tanks for 5 turns against a SM player with Skyweavers while shooting his Devastators.

I bet he was pleased. Trollolololol.

None of the SM or Guard players like my Harlequins lol

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