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alman69uk
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PostSubject: 1000pts Local Tournament   Fri Jul 07 2017, 14:16

So here's my stab at a 1000pt list
It's pretty self explanatory, trueborn share on raider, incubi and succubus ride in the other
Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [998pts]
HQ
Succubus, Archite Glaive, Splinter Pistol
Elites
6 Incubi
5 Trueborn with 2 Splinter Cannons, PGL
5 Trueborn with 2 Splinter Cannons
Fast Attack
Scourges 5, 4 with Blasters
Scourges 5, 4 with Blasters
Heavy Support
Ravager 3 Dark Lance
Dedicated Transport
Raider, Dark Lance
Raider, Dark Lance

Thoughts are welcome




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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts Local Tournament   Fri Jul 07 2017, 14:43

I put you at 20 points under. On top of that, it was clarified that you don't have to pay the extra points for understrength units anymore in the latest errata/ FAQ, the power level stays the same but you don't pay the points for it. That leaves you with an extra 38 points to spend if you drop an Incubi and my Maths is right. With that I would give the other trueborn squad a PGL, change one squad of Scourges to a Ravager and add a blast pistol to the Succubus. I prefer Ravagers as they're more survivable than Scourges, though there are plenty in the dark city that would disagree. The other option would be to give the Trueborn unit a pgl, both of them a Blaster each and then use the remaining 5 points for shock prows etc.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts Local Tournament   Fri Jul 07 2017, 15:04

Hum I made my total 998 using a certain app. Still it wouldn't be the first time it's wrong.

Ideally I'd rather have the trueborn squads in barebone venom rather than sharing a raider.
I had considered an understrength incubi squad but I'm not sure if that will be allowed at the event.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts Local Tournament   Fri Jul 07 2017, 15:09

Ah, I have 6 incubi not 5 sorry for the typo (fixed now).
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts Local Tournament   Fri Jul 07 2017, 15:13

For some reason I had it in my head that you had the Succubus, Incubi and trueborn were in one raider with the 5 man sqaud in the other. My heads away mate my bad. Ask the event organiser if you can, because it would allow you to put one of the Trueborn units in Venom and give them two blasters as well.

Still, with 20 points you can pick up a blast pistol 2 Agonisers and shock prows for the raiders. Or like I said you could earlier you could still consider changing the scourge unit up for a Ravager, although considering just how low the model count is that might be bad advice.

On the other hand altogether, you're going to be very low on anti infantry fire over all. If you face any kind of horde army or conscript blobs I can see you struggling. Is your meta quite MEQ or TEQ heavy?
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts Local Tournament   Fri Jul 07 2017, 15:23

It was pretty MEQ heavy and people are using a lot of vehicles at the moment. Honestly I'm not really sure what tools we have that are that good against the conscript blobs at 1000pts, without sacrificing elsewhere. One of the reasons for venom is to get in a bit more AI fire.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts Local Tournament   Fri Jul 07 2017, 16:42

Here's a thought, drop the Trueborn entirely and get two units of Standard Kabalites in Venoms, with a Blaster and a PGL each. That should run you 266 points. That gives you another 12 to spend and gives you the same number of shots as the Trueborn unit across two vehicles and what you lose in lances you should make up for in blasters. Moreover, you don't lose all your firepower if the Raider gets charged. Definitely ask if you can bring a 4 man Incubi squad. If you can, move that to a Venom as well and you've got 85 points to spend. You do however lose two dark lances and get two blasters, which don't really compare. With 85, you could purchase a stock Venom, or upgrade one unit of Scourges to a Ravager and still have 60 points to spend. You could pick up a stock unit of Scourges if you can find 10 points.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts Local Tournament   Fri Jul 07 2017, 17:47

Good thoughts, I'd need a different detachment type but yeah I'll put my thinking cap on.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts Local Tournament   Fri Jul 07 2017, 18:11

Everything I mentioned fits in to a patrol detachment. You lose the extra command point but it's not the worst thing in the world. Alternatively, you could stick with the Blaster Scourges and use the 85 points to get another scourge unit with a Blaster and change it to an outrider detachment.
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