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PostSubject: The Corpse Theif Crowd (2k)   Wed Jul 05 2017, 14:49

Hey Guys,

I have been playing smaller games in 8th edition (1k and 50PL) with using only Talos, Cronos and Haemys, and I have been having so much fun that I am planning to expand the list up to 2k.

It may not be the most damaging list we have and it will be vulnerable to the more mobile and AP heavy lists, but after playing the games I have (some against deep striking melta scions) I was very surprised at the resilience of our monsters. To the point that I think it could actually do fairly well.

I am posting it here to get a discussion going on the weapon load outs for the Talos, as I'm trying to decide how to strike a balance between weight of fire and lances.

This comes to 1999pts and 93PL

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Haemonculus
Crucible of Malediction, Electrocorrosive whip, Liquifier Gun

Haemonculus
Crucible of Malediction, Electrocorrosive whip, Liquifier Gun

Haemonculus
Crucible of Malediction, Electrocorrosive whip, Hexrifle

Heavy Support

Cronos (x1)
Spirit leech tenticles, Spirit Syphon, Spirit Vortex

Cronos (x1)
Spirit leech tenticles, Spirit Syphon, Spirit Vortex

Cronos (x1)
Spirit leech tenticles, Spirit Syphon, Spirit Vortex

Talos (x1)
2 Heat lances, Macro-Scalpel, Twin liquifier gun

Talos (x1)
2 Heat lances, Macro-Scalpel, Twin liquifier gun

Talos (x1)
2 Heat lances, Macro-Scalpel, Twin liquifier gun

Talos (x2)
Macro-Scalpel, Stinger Pod, Twin liquifier gun

Talos (x2)
Macro-Scalpel, Stinger Pod, Twin liquifier gun

Talos (x2)
Macro-Scalpel, Stinger Pod, Twin liquifier gun

Thanks for all of your thoughts, and please try to look past how the list looks on paper; they surprised me in how they perform otherwise I would never have considered expanding up to a full tournament level list.

I should also mention that I have no illusions that this might win a tournament, I just think its great fun to play and fancy taking it along to those I attend Smile

Cheers guys!
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PostSubject: Re: The Corpse Theif Crowd (2k)   Wed Jul 05 2017, 15:14

Urien Rakarth ain't coming along for the party?

All in all, I'd say it'd definitely be a formidable list to face off against. That's a lot of vicious stuff that can really buff each other.

However, the one thing I'd be concerned with are Scions. For a measly 168 points they can deepstrike in turn 1 with 8 plasma guns on overcharge (with re-roll 1's) and dish out 32 damage.

There's not much you can really do to counter it if you want to keep things themed, but if you can spare 63 points, you could squeeze in 3 razorwing flocks and bubble wrap your stuff. And even if you're not fighting a deep strike heavy army, at least it's only 63 points, and you can still use them to camp backfield objectives while the Corpse thieves do their dirty work.

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PostSubject: Re: The Corpse Theif Crowd (2k)   Wed Jul 05 2017, 17:51

Arani wrote:
Urien Rakarth ain't coming along for the party?

All in all, I'd say it'd definitely be a formidable list to face off against.  That's a lot of vicious stuff that can really buff each other.

However, the one thing I'd be concerned with are Scions.  For a measly 168 points they can deepstrike in turn 1 with 8 plasma guns on overcharge (with re-roll 1's) and dish out  32 damage.  

There's not much you can really do to counter it if you want to keep things themed, but if you can spare 63 points, you could squeeze in 3 razorwing flocks and bubble wrap your stuff.  And even if you're not fighting a deep strike heavy army, at least it's only 63 points, and you can still use them to camp backfield objectives while the Corpse thieves do their dirty work.

Urien has a specific coven that mine aren't in Very Happy so won't me taking him.

I tried rolling those scions (16 shots right) and after all the dice settled they did a single damage, have you forgotten about the 5++, 6++ that the Talos have?

I face scions regularly, though they usually have meltas rather than plasma and I've learned to bit fear them so much, they disappear when the liquifiers open up next turn. Smile

Thanks for your feedback Very Happy it is much appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: The Corpse Theif Crowd (2k)   Wed Jul 05 2017, 18:16

I'm pretty sure approximately 0% of people will play with the "You can't take canon characters in your personal chapter!" rules, so you should be free to play your own Coven with Urien Rakarth. If the other player seriously tries to pull that on you, just shrug and go "Fine, they're Prophets of Flesh for the purposes of the game's rules."
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PostSubject: Re: The Corpse Theif Crowd (2k)   Sat Jul 08 2017, 14:51

Hey interesting list. I think most people will be afraid of those monsters and buffs. I think it will only get better (pure speculation) when our codex is release. I've tried two Talos and Hemi and my last game to an ok effect. They only took 1 one wound but did not really inflict any damage in combat. I ran them with icor injector and macro scalpels. Not impressed with the icor injector, the possibility of multiple wounds is outwayed by the low AP. I'll try and run them again with 2 Talos and 1 Chronos with your load out. Liqufiergun performed well with the hami. Still trying to figure out the optimal load out for my coven guys.

Keep us posted on how this update performs. Also watch your stuff on YouTube. Keep it up.
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PostSubject: Re: The Corpse Theif Crowd (2k)   Sat Jul 08 2017, 19:39

Looks like a fun list! Right before 8th dropped I was looking at starting up or introducing some coven to my army
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PostSubject: Re: The Corpse Theif Crowd (2k)   Thu Jul 20 2017, 10:57

Atradies17 wrote:
Hey interesting list. I think most people will be afraid of those monsters and buffs. I think it will only get better (pure speculation) when our codex is release. I've tried two Talos and Hemi and my last game to an ok effect. They only took 1 one wound but did not really inflict any damage in combat. I ran them with icor injector and macro scalpels. Not impressed with the icor  injector, the possibility of multiple wounds is outwayed by the low AP. I'll try and run them again with 2 Talos and 1 Chronos with your load out. Liqufiergun performed well with the hami. Still trying to figure out the optimal load out for my coven guys.

Keep us posted on how this update performs. Also watch your stuff on YouTube. Keep it up.

Great stuff! Smile I have found them to be great fun to play, I have 12 Talos/Cronos now so I have many options for the lists now Very Happy You are right; they aren't going to do anything in CC (except to basic units) but they can be used to tie up units and at close range with the liquefier guns they can be brutal.

I played against an Ork list with 60 Boys and Ghazkull with some Lootas, and I found that when the Boyz got close I could simply delete model after model from each unit of 30 using the liquifiers and stinger pods until they just failed morale. I won both games we played handily. This excited me as I had considered hordes to be a real problem for this list, and that really isn't the case.

I am now thinking the one real build that I will struggle against is high dmg spam lists (such as DE with blasters).

BloodyOdd wrote:
Looks like a fun list! Right before 8th dropped I was looking at starting up or introducing some coven to my army

Do it! Wink
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