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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 21:36

The fact that I can fit 192 flock bases into a 2000 point list with room to spare.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 21:45

Not like you could not fit 150 conscripts into 1000 points games in 7th... It's waaaaaaay too early to make such silly assumptions, especially since GW is finally supporting some competetive, thus providing regular rebalances, which might invalidate such lists, even if people suddenly go bonkers and evryone will start droping 2000000+ models on the boards in tournament.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 21:48

This is almost 800 wounds. Over 1500 attacks a turn. Give me one answer to that. One thing that would shut that list down.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 21:50

@TeenageAngst wrote:
This is almost 800 wounds. Over 1500 attacks a turn. Give me one answer to that. One thing that would shut that list down.

Give me one formation that allows you to legally put them on the table and that will not be restricted in tournaments.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 21:51

You can do this easily.

2 Outriders with max bird units and 4x beastmasters bringing 4 slotless bird units.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 21:52

And how is that a one formation exactly?

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 21:54

It's not, it's 2, which most tournament formats allow 3 but no more than 2 of the same thing.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 22:09

Most tournaments allow 3 detachements/formations and no duplicates, at least that's how it was in Europe in 7th. I think the most of the new tournament rules will prevent duplicates for exactly the same reason, so you can't pull off stupid stuff like a full conscript army, also, depending on the rules, you might run out of time if you are playing on the clock with such an army.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 22:13

You can fit just as many without taking dupes you just gotta be clever. Also even I only brought idk 120 birds that's still too many to deal with.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 22:15

No its not...

Baelstrike brand (spelling) literally are just Scourges, you get 4 heavy weapons on Jump Reavers Brand like like Scourges are Jump Kabals. Its literally the same thing.

We dont need Cotiers or special rules, its about keeping the same basic units that players already have built

LITERALLY YOU CAN NOT PLAY THESE MODELS ANYMORE and they sell them https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Eldar-Corsair-Heavy-Weapons

Again... they added 2-3 more units (the Baron HQ, the Elite and the Heavy unit) is all that was needed to keep the army feeling alive.

It would have taken 1 hour at most.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 22:16

@TeenageAngst wrote:
You can fit just as many without taking dupes you just gotta be clever. Also even I only brought idk 120 birds that's still too many to deal with.

I'll believe it when I'll see it and I highly doubt I will.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 22:18

Outrider can take 8 full units (2 elites for Breast Master and 6 for FA), units are 12, thats 96 bird in 1 detachment.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sat Jun 24 2017, 22:20

I'm bringing the birds to NOVA. See you on the livestream of the top table.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Sun Jun 25 2017, 02:10

I'll be watching from Australia! Looking forwards to this.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Mon Jun 26 2017, 04:56

I'm hoping maybe they go the other direction and create plastic kits for the corsair infantry, wasp and hornet. a couple character models and a harlequin type codex. So it could be a streamlined stand alone army or a unique ally detachment you could field. Not gonna hold my breath but a guy can dream.
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Mon Jun 26 2017, 05:41

@amishprn86 wrote:

LITERALLY YOU CAN NOT PLAY THESE MODELS ANYMORE and they sell them https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Eldar-Corsair-Heavy-Weapons

UM? Yes you can? They provide the weapons for the units that are not las blasters?

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Mon Jun 26 2017, 07:47

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@amishprn86 wrote:

LITERALLY YOU CAN NOT PLAY THESE MODELS ANYMORE and they sell them https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Eldar-Corsair-Heavy-Weapons

UM? Yes you can? They provide the weapons for the units that are not las blasters?

They can take 1 per 5 now. There is no longer the Balestrike Brand (that this kit was made for).

You can no longer have 4 heavy weapons now, the largest unit is 15.

You get my point.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Mon Jun 26 2017, 09:12

I get your point, but you can use it, just not in the same way as before.
Same with my 3 incubi and 3 mandrakes, I can use them, but I first have to buy more guys.

So yes this happens...
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Mon Jun 26 2017, 09:57

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I get your point, but you can use it, just not in the same way as before.
Same with my 3 incubi and 3 mandrakes, I can use them, but I first have to buy more guys.

So yes this happens...

No b.c those 2 units come in packs of 5....... thats not the same thing.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Mon Jun 26 2017, 11:39

@|Meavar wrote:
I get your point, but you can use it, just not in the same way as before.
Same with my 3 incubi and 3 mandrakes, I can use them, but I first have to buy more guys.

That's not the same thing though.

This is like if Incubi were removed completely but Kabalite Sybaries could take Klaives.
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs may be dropped from Gen 8.    Mon Jun 26 2017, 12:16

Its more like Getting rid of Scourges all together but still sells the kit, you can use the weapons for your Kabals and you can use the models still just no rules at all for them. But they dont sell Kabal packs any more.

This is literally what they did.

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