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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Wed Nov 30 2011, 00:17

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Nice Wracks!



I really had a hard time not making a joke. At least I kept it public forum-friendly! Rolling Eyes

@Saint Spirit-what are you regretting about your skin tone? I think the colors of your army go really well together. Remember-You can't paint Wracks however you want-Gnarlskin isn't supposed to look nice! I remember seeing one where the person painted them as though they had just had their skin flayed off. Very disturbing...in a "pain is good" sorta way lol!

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Wed Nov 30 2011, 03:37

Angrypeasant-I posted this on the modeling/painting page. Thought that I'd "double dip" and post it here too:
Had a request on the painting log asking how I did my bases. They are really fast, really cheap to do.
Materials:
-Cut up sprue material.
-Plastic tube covers that come on paint brushes
-Any sort of basing "gravel". I use Woodland Scenics brand. (Train modeling)
-Sheets of styrene sheet. (Available at modeling shops. Usually about $3.00USD for a 1'X6" square. Sorry no metric measurement: We Americans are baffled by the metric system Rolling Eyes )
-I also bought one of the City Fight Manufactorium buildings years ago. I've been cutting up the floor pieces for years to base models higher and for larger models.
-regular Super Glue. I use Instacure brand, but use whatever is clever for you.


The last ingredient is fine ballast from Woodland Scenics. This is the new bag that I bought to replace the bag that I am almost at the end of. I bought the old bag in 2000 for $5USD. This is the 6th army that I have based in this way. That's less than a dollar per army for this stuff. CHEAP!

I then put a layer of Superglue on the base and put down the sheet chunks and sprue pieces.

For models that I don't plan to elevate on the base I start by cutting up small sections of the styrene sheet to make wall chunks.


I then sprinkle some of the "gravel" while the layer of glue is still wet. Doesn't matter what color as I prime and paint it anyways.


Last step-I then dip the model into a bag of the fine ballast. Pull it out, shake off excess. Sometimes I will add a spot of Superglue here and there as needed and re-dip the base into the ballast.




Voila. If I want to elevate the model on the base (Why are characters in the 40k universe always standing on something tall during battles? Razz ) I usually just cut up a chunk of one of the City Fight floor sections. The "random pipe jutting out of the ground" effect is achieved by cutting the clear tube cover that comes with paint brushes at an angle.



That's it. Seriously. It is cheap as Hell and is easy to do. I'll post how to paint them up tomorrow.

Enjoy!

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Thu Dec 01 2011, 03:07

Nice tutorial ESE. And gorgeous Coven models, absolutely gorgeous! Colourful but still suitably macabre.
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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Thu Dec 01 2011, 04:32

Reposting this from the painting section on bases:
Wanted to post the quick paint of these bases.
-Materials:
Adeptus Grey, Codex Grey, Fortress Grey, rotting Flesh
Two Tank Brushes
Thinned Brown ink-Not a fan of washes for bases. I use Citadel wash for a lot of things, but I've never been happy with it for painting bases.


I do a quick drybrush with Adeptus followed by Codex Grey using the same brush.


sometimes I get lazy and use the same brush throughout, but I usually switch to the second tank brush and do a quick and light drybrush with Fortress Grey and Rotting Flesh.



I then paint any metal details or other stuff at this point. I use Boltgun Metal thinned with a little Badab Black wash and Gnarlac Green patched on the pipe.


I then wash this down with the thinned Brown Ink. (The Wrack's base has been washed in this pic, the Grot's not)


After this dries I usually do a little more to "weather up" the bases. I usually hit the bases with a little Vallejo pigment powder and Devlan Mud to get a rusty, dirty look.

That's it. These two models took about 5 minutes. When they dry it will take another 3-5 to do the weathering. I usually paint about 3-4 models at a time but sometimes do a whole unit of 10 before doing the other paint.

Hope this is helpful!

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sun Dec 04 2011, 01:44

Wasn't supposed to paint anything this month, but the base was almost done and the big fella kept groaning about needing paint...
Test model for my Grotesques:



I need to assemble the other three for the unit (two will need to be converted). I'm using them in a game on the 17th and really would like to see some paint on them.

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sun Dec 04 2011, 03:29

Thats a great start on the paint for the grot, I can not wait to see what else you have cooking. Its my humble opinion, but it seems like he is begging for a little more spot color somewhere on the model. maybe a bit more of the green on the ribbed canister thingies?
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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sun Dec 04 2011, 09:39

@Angrypeasant wrote:
Thats a great start on the paint for the grot, I can not wait to see what else you have cooking. Its my humble opinion, but it seems like he is begging for a little more spot color somewhere on the model. maybe a bit more of the green on the ribbed canister thingies?

I'm with you on this. Not sure what in the hell to do with the model. The Wracks have nice purple robes to break up the model-these Grots have nothing of the sort. The ribbed things on the back seemed to be ventilator pumps. These I would keep black though I agree that it would help to break up the monotony of the model. Hopefully the others can bring a little more color with the conversion ideas that I have.

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sun Dec 04 2011, 09:44

Very impressive army you have there ESE, been watching for a while and with the addition of the wracks and Grots, its really pulled the whole thing together!!

I'm always happy to see an update from you Smile
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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Wed Dec 07 2011, 01:20

Thanks for the kind words 3D.

Sprained my thumb in a hockey game(stick hand) playing goalie and can't paint much right now. Hopefully it doesn't bother me for a few days more. I can paint, but can't hold the mini. I finally have a break from teaching next week and I can't paint right now Mad I'm hoping to get my coven models all assembled by the end of the month for my "Coven Christmas" December goal.

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sat Dec 10 2011, 22:27

Taped up the thumb and got something done!
More Wracks!

I might base these tonight and get them painted before my game on the 17th.

Grots after that!

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Mon Dec 12 2011, 03:02

[DarthVader]
Impressive...

Most Impressive
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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Mon Dec 12 2011, 03:09

But I'm not a Jedi yet? Laughing
Thanks for the kind words.

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Thu Dec 15 2011, 22:21

I'm still looking forward to your flesh tutorial! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Fri Dec 16 2011, 01:12

@Archeonlotet wrote:
I'm still looking forward to your flesh tutorial! Smile

Sorry for the delay! Embarassed I was a little swamped and haven't painted this week. I'll get that up early next week after I get back from my weekend trip. I haven't put anything together that isn't Coven related(I use a lighter skin tone on those)

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Fri Dec 16 2011, 13:32

No apologies necessary! I'm just getting the urge to actually paint some stuff myself (it happens very rarely) and painting flesh has always been my achilles heel. If I can shamelessly swindle your painting method, then I might actually paint a model whose skin I can be proud of.

So I'm not trying to be pushy about it... just feelin like a kid before Christmas! (which is fitting since it is almost Christmas lol)
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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sat Dec 17 2011, 13:27

Wracks are looking good.
I wouldn't mind a tutorial on the flesh for when I get round to mine.
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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sun Dec 18 2011, 04:29

Just got back into town. I had to base some minis and prime them to show how I paint skin.

Basecoat- I use a mixture of (roughly)1:1:4(?) Tallarn Flesh:Shadow Grey:Fortress

This is a comparison. Shadow Grey blob on the left, my mixture on the right.


Looks like this on the mini:(sorry, grainy camera phone Embarassed )


I then highlight with thinned down Fortress Grey:


For Wracks I apply the Fortress Grey highlight a bit more:


After this I shade with a 50/50 mixture of Leviathan Purple/thinned Valejo Smoke(You could easily use Devlan Mud).

For the last stage I do a final thinned highlight of 40/60 Fortress Grey/Skull White.

I'll shade these in the morning and apply the last highlight.

Hope this helps!

Edit: WOW! My phone takes really crappy pictures up close! Just read the description and ignore the terrible pictures. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sun Dec 18 2011, 05:31

Looks like I'm gonna have to go out tomorrow and pick up some new paint buckets! Thanks very much for the tutorial ESE!

I'll get some models done and start a project log. I hope to be able to put your technique to good use (and credit you for the instruction of course).
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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sun Dec 18 2011, 13:22

I'll not ignore those pictures!! Razz

OK, so maybe they are'nt the best, but I can't help but say the wracks once again look amazing! The colors you have chosen all complement one another very well and those make me envious!

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sun Dec 18 2011, 18:29

Actually finished the skin up this morning. Thanks for the motivation guys! I should be able to finish up these Wracks(they are the last of my Wrack models! cheers ) tonight before moving on to my Cronos and Talos. Played a game against an old friend yesterday with a mostly Coven army and had a BLAST!

Last of the skin tutorial:
Shading the skin-
Wracks:

Wyches:


Final highlights-(again, crappy phone camera Mad )
Wracks:


Wyches:


It's a little hard to see, but I use Iyandian Darksun for the eyes with a black iris/pupil to offset the skin tone and give them a drugged-out vampire vibe.

I hope this was helpful. Off to work and then finishing the Wracks. The Cronos and Talos are groaning about wanting some paint....

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Sun Dec 18 2011, 21:48

Your units are just awesome!
I especially love the vehicles!

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Mon Dec 19 2011, 01:43

Thanks for the complements guys!
@Archeonlotet wrote:

I'll get some models done and start a project log. I hope to be able to put your technique to good use (and credit you for the instruction of course).

I probably stole it from someone anyways Laughing Looking forward to your models. Doing that skin tutorial gave me the motivation to finish my last four Wracks. cheers I'll credit you for motivating me to finish these ugly bastards.


I need to finish putting together my Grotesques and finish converting my other Coven Raider to get my December Monthly Vow done. I can see that Talos and Cronos on my desk totally foiling that plan... Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Mon Dec 19 2011, 05:47

Okay, totally giving into the Cronos and Talos. Can't wait until tomorrow morning to prime these bad boys and slap some paint on them! bounce



I'll still have time to finish putting together the Grotesques and Coven Raider this month for the December Monthly Vow after I paint these two.(Right? Neutral )

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Tue Dec 20 2011, 04:19

Got a little flesh painting in tonight.


I love this model! Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: An "Evil?" project log. 6/21 Don't call it a comeback!   Tue Dec 20 2011, 14:13

Looks great. I like the grey skin.
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