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Speed Racer 42
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PostSubject: Wraithguard Reborn   Sun Feb 12 2017, 02:51

Hello all. Was reading the new gathering storm 2 and thinking about ways to use the new Ynnari rules when I came up with an idea that I wanted options on and make sure this works the way I think.

So the idea is to run a 5 man Wraithguard w/ dscythes in a raider with night shields. Deep strike the raider and then disembark the Wraithguard so they form a line so all 5 can fire with no issues. Then after they kill the unit you shoot them at (good chance with that flame D) have them use the soulburst to embark back into the raider. Now use the raiders flat out to move where more flames of death are needed. Jink with nightshield to keep Wraithguard alive as long as possible.

Let me know any thoughts. Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Wraithguard Reborn   Sun Feb 12 2017, 03:00

I don't think you can embark with the movement granted by a soulburst action, since embarking is expressly done in the movement phase.

That said, your idea could work to have them kill one unit with D-scythes, then soulburst to fire in a different direction at another unit within range.
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PostSubject: Re: Wraithguard Reborn   Sun Feb 12 2017, 03:08

why do they need to ever leave the raider? keep em on and do a ton of destruction
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PostSubject: Re: Wraithguard Reborn   Sun Feb 12 2017, 03:11

They scatter in the absence of a WWP, so leaving the raider allows them to mitigate scatter distance in order to attain the best positioning, and allows you to place the raider for deepstriking safely rather than trying risky deep strikes for ideal positioning.
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PostSubject: Re: Wraithguard Reborn   Sun Feb 12 2017, 04:30

Use a WWP and land between two units. Flame the smaller one first and if you destroy it get the second...
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PostSubject: Re: Wraithguard Reborn   Sun Feb 12 2017, 04:42

The other thing on staying in the transport not sure the unit can use a soulburst. The unit is a separate unit in the transport but while embarked in transport can they use soulburst? I can see both sides of argument on this
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PostSubject: Re: Wraithguard Reborn   Sun Feb 12 2017, 04:44

@Speed Racer 42 wrote:
The other thing on staying in the transport not sure the unit can use a soulburst.  The unit is a separate unit in the transport but while embarked in transport can they use soulburst?  I can see both sides of argument on this

Yeah this is a reeeeeally key point that screams FAQ.

If they can use souldburst inside the transport they should just stay in the transport waiting someone to destroy it to shoot back IMHO

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PostSubject: Re: Wraithguard Reborn   Sun Feb 12 2017, 05:21

They are not on board while in the raider. I think we had a similar issue some time ago regarding selecting embarked units with a result being a "no, you cant select an unit embarked on a transport".
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PostSubject: Re: Wraithguard Reborn   Sun Feb 12 2017, 05:39

The soul burst rule has no ruling saying it works in a transport - so you have to disembark for it to activate

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PostSubject: Re: Wraithguard Reborn   Sun Feb 12 2017, 06:15

I concur with Massaen and pile on with the FAQ that you may not measure distances for embarked passengers except to fire weapons or witchfires. You can't be within 7" of something if you don't have a distance for measurement purposes for that thing.
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