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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Thu 26 Jan 2017 - 19:44

Quote that.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Thu 26 Jan 2017 - 20:12

@BizarreShowbiz wrote:
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One thing nobody addressed yet are the relics. Where are the relics and what can they do for us?

PLEASE let a relic be a jet bike.

Runninh 3 Hemi's on bikes was my jam. Now obviously Covens won't be in it, but yes PLEASE GIVE ME MY BIKE BACK!
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Thu 26 Jan 2017 - 20:14

Thanks for the recap.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Thu 26 Jan 2017 - 21:38

Didn't get to see the live stream due to work. Thanks for the poSt! This is is most excellent news! Love the new models and it sounds like I will love this new faction. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Thu 26 Jan 2017 - 21:57

I was hoping DE were getting some much needed attention and a decurion.
Apparently not, just wyches and incubi with an eldar death faction. Rolling Eyes

Thats disappointing.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Thu 26 Jan 2017 - 22:31

I also had to work. Thanks very much for the synopsis.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Thu 26 Jan 2017 - 22:33

You are welcome Smile

@Painjunky wrote:
I was hoping DE were getting some much needed attention and a decurion.
Apparently not, just wyches and incubi with an eldar death faction. Rolling Eyes

Thats disappointing.

We don't know how many Dark Eldar units will Join the Ynnari

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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 1:45

If I wanted to run Dark Eldar in a different faction with different rules I'd play Corsairs. Pass.

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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 2:37

@Painjunky wrote:
I was hoping DE were getting some much needed attention and a decurion.
Apparently not, just wyches and incubi with an eldar death faction. Rolling Eyes

Thats disappointing.
You just put 2+2 together and got 5. Beyond the terribly janky screenshots we got of those two formations we have no idea what this book will cover rules wise, though the focus being the new Ynnari faction would seem obvious.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 2:52

I don't see why they would include any new material for the 3 existing factions while simultaneously trying to push their players into an entirely new one.

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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 3:27

Because it's not really completely new? I see it as more of a...alternative loadout(?) if that makes sense, of old units from the various codices. Like in an FPS.

It almost certainly won't satisfy that solo-codex so many of us seek a scratch to; however, this will not stop me from enjoying the new fluff. I was never interested in winning 40k, let alone being competitive. I knew that wasn't going to be on the menu from the moment I read the 7e codex.

I just like pretending to be a cocaine-fueled elf space pirate.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 3:42

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Because it's not really completely new? I see it as more of a...alternative loadout(?) if that makes sense, of old units from the various codices. Like in an FPS.
That's what the Corsairs are, and they do it with more panache. Corsairs are wonderful, even if I don't play them. They're EVE Online mixed with Pirates of the Caribbean in all the best ways. Ynnead sounds like a combination of the Blood Elf paladin storyline from the Burning Crusade mixed with a bunch of excuses to run models with low sales performance without actually updating the individual codexes.

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It almost certainly won't satisfy that solo-codex so many of us seek a scratch to; however, this will not stop me from enjoying the new fluff. I was never interested in winning 40k, let alone being competitive. I knew that wasn't going to be on the menu from the moment I read the 7e codex.
My favorite games were almost all ones I didn't win, but they were darned close, and I like games that are darned close. They're the ones you tell stories about. You have to be competitive though to have darned close games, and DE don't really have competitive lists.

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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 3:49

I simply refuse to reave if I can't at least get blasted on hard drugs, like Khaine intended.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 9:58

@Imateria wrote:

On the other hand, I can see small squads of Wyches and Hellions running around for the sole purpose of being killed off to buff your other units being a viable tactic, depending on how strong the buffs are.

So if you consider this statement:
When an Ynnari unit is destroyed, Ynnari units around it gain special bonuses.
And then this:
They explicitly said that units that now are not worth it in competitive play will be worth considering fielding in this supplement.

It follows that since the only thing hellions and wyches are good at IS being murdered, the buff level will BE OVER NINE TH... high, it will be high. There will be a lot of buffs.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 10:38

@Scrz wrote:
So if you consider this statement:
When an Ynnari unit is destroyed, Ynnari units around it gain special bonuses.
And then this:
They explicitly said that units that now are not worth it in competitive play will be worth considering fielding in this supplement.

It follows that  since the only thing hellions and wyches are good at IS being murdered, the buff level will BE OVER NINE TH... high, it will be high. There will be a lot of buffs.

I was a bit more cynical in my take on that. I assume that they will remain the world champions at dying horrifically but that their deaths will actually serve a purpose by buffing the other surviving units around them, probably Craftworlders. GW's design philosophy for DE in a nutshell.

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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 11:25

Anyone know anything about Vect? My archon are very loyal to him and will follow his will Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 12:20

I can't see our benevolent ruler following a god.

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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 13:36

@Count Adhemar wrote:
@Scrz wrote:
So if you consider this statement:
When an Ynnari unit is destroyed, Ynnari units around it gain special bonuses.
And then this:
They explicitly said that units that now are not worth it in competitive play will be worth considering fielding in this supplement.

It follows that  since the only thing hellions and wyches are good at IS being murdered, the buff level will BE OVER NINE TH... high, it will be high. There will be a lot of buffs.

I was a bit more cynical in my take on that. I assume that they will remain the world champions at dying horrifically but that their deaths will actually serve a purpose by buffing the other surviving units around them, probably Craftworlders. GW's design philosophy for DE in a nutshell.

Oh for sure. Since I understand that a "unit" has to be destroyed I assume that the wyches needs to be wiped to a man for the buff to trigger. So the buffs probably won't be benefiting them that much. Unless they come back somehow...
I just wonder how many "soul tithe" points Ynnead Demon Kin needs to summon a bloodthirster. Even the color scheme seems kinda familiar...
SOULS FOR THE SOUL GOD!
SAMENESS FOR THE MEH THRONE!
J/K I love the whole thing and I think it is going to be great.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 16:35

@Scrz wrote:
So if you consider this statement:
When an Ynnari unit is destroyed, Ynnari units around it gain special bonuses.
And then this:
They explicitly said that units that now are not worth it in competitive play will be worth considering fielding in this supplement.

It follows that  since the only thing hellions and wyches are good at IS being murdered, the buff level will BE OVER NINE TH... high, it will be high. There will be a lot of buffs.

The word fielding really makes it sounds like, being there(and eventually dying) is all that you need them to be... then our main and new character can buff the unit that is already good,like CWE...

Wow, I have become one of the nay sayers... we will wait and see how that rule actually plays out.
Actually if it makes playing a Wych Cult list viable again then I would be all for it.


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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 16:37

IT'S SPREADING! Everyone, get away from here!
The nay virus is spreading!

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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 16:56

@CptMetal, nay, I don't think its spreading.
Oh god...

In truth we don't even know what is in the book.
The rules, relics and detachment may even favor DE more than CWE.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 17:08

True, The one formation looks like Incubi, Wyches, and Dire Avengers. If that is true and the rules are good I will be more then glad to pick up a squad of dire avengers and maybe even a Wave Serpent to give them a ride.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 17:16

@mrmagoo wrote:
True,  The one formation looks like Incubi, Wyches, and Dire Avengers.  If that is true and the rules are good I will be more then glad to pick up a squad of dire avengers and maybe even a Wave Serpent to give them a ride.  

But that probably means we need to buy the codex too.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 17:19

I can't wait to see the new formations etc. I just hope I can keep my wych/banshee list together. Mainly to keep the armies fluff the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Fracture of Biel-Tan reveal in Twitch.tv   Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 17:23

@Draco wrote:
@mrmagoo wrote:
True,  The one formation looks like Incubi, Wyches, and Dire Avengers.  If that is true and the rules are good I will be more then glad to pick up a squad of dire avengers and maybe even a Wave Serpent to give them a ride.  

But that probably means we need to buy the codex too.

Yea, I didn't think about that.
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