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PostSubject: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:26 pm

So the Triumvirrate have had their rules leaked. Look pretty OP with the survivability of both Cowl and the Saint.

Just thought I would share

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:53 pm

Yeah, they're pretty nuts. Celestine is going to be an even better buff unit for Deathstars and Cawl will be an auto include in War Convocation lists.
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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:45 pm

Pure cheese.

If this is a sign of things to come in 8th ed i'm very worried.
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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:27 pm

Celestine is pretty gross.
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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:03 pm

My first thought when seeing these was for all the fan dexes and fandex discussion.

These rules would instantly be called unbalanced by any Tom dick or Harry on a community website trying to fix their own broken faction. Yet here we see GW giving these obviously overpowered units to a faction that isn't struggling at all.

This is just wholly disappointing.

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:55 am

@The Red King wrote:
My first thought when seeing these was for all the fan dexes and fandex discussion.

These rules would instantly be called unbalanced by any Tom dick or Harry on a community website trying to fix their own broken faction. Yet here we see GW giving these obviously overpowered units to a faction that isn't struggling at all.

This is just wholly disappointing.

Absolutely agree.

Its like it was written by a 14 year old fanboi. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:00 am

That's a little unfair to say. I mean I know some 14 year olds who are self aware enough to say "hmmm that's over powered crap". Lol

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:01 am

@The Red King wrote:
My first thought when seeing these was for all the fan dexes and fandex discussion.

These rules would instantly be called unbalanced by any Tom dick or Harry on a community website trying to fix their own broken faction. Yet here we see GW giving these obviously overpowered units to a faction that isn't struggling at all.

This is just wholly disappointing.

Where's that Like button?

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:23 am

Nid players are looking at Cawl and drooling. T6, 5W, 2+ and 4+ FNP re-rollable. Even the Swarmlord isnt that good (and costs more, lol).

I guess when Vect arrives, he will be T9 7W with 2++ re-rollable, all for 150 pts, right? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:24 am

More like T3, 3W with a shadowfield and no EW for about 250 points

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:14 am

We should be happy if he doesn't get toughness 2 to represent his ancient frame.

Of course they will ignore every other part of his fluff...

I want to point out I'm actually a huge GW fanboy. I'm also a realist and a cynic.

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:48 am

@Painjunky wrote:
Its like it was written by a 14 year old fanboi. Rolling Eyes
Anyone remember Matt Ward posting a photo of himself back at GWHQ for freelance work? I guess now we know what he was asked to work on.

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:04 am

Oh man that... that is depressingly plausible....

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:32 pm

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via rumors on 4chan
I have see eldar boxes today, although I have not been able to make any photos, I have not been alone while leaving the boxes from the truck, but while working on the truck, they opened some

Asdrubael Vect it's on a grav plataform and the platform looks like the image of rumour engine, the same box also brings 2 incubi but are very different from the current ones as with thicker armor, but none of the 3 miniatures look like the image of the red eldar of fall of cadia.

There were other boxes containing larger boxes inside, but I've only seen a little piece of the side, in which an female eldar in a yellow and blue gown with the name ...of Iyanden (I could not see it all) under the portrait, the box was large so i guess that will contain more miniatures since it is bigger than the box of vect.

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:27 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:34 pm

Is Cawl in some sort of ancient centurian armour or something? I've never heard of a T6 imperial other than a primarch or something.

EDIT: Wow, just looked at the rules. Celestine is pretty sick, but none of her rules are that surprising considering her previous writeups. Cawl and Inquisitor Greyfax or whatever her name is are ridiculous. Cawl is like a T6 BS5 2+ FnP rerollable self ressurrecting 1d3 models per turn unit of fire dragons for the price of 8 fire dragons with a firepike exarch.

And the Inquisitor is like a super-powered servo skull, having a 24" servo skull aura instead of the 9" or 12" that the skulls have. People were paying 60 for an inquisitor plus the price of each servo skull to get access to them before, and can now get it on a 150 point model that also denies ML5 psykers like she's ML6 and get's 3 psychic powers herself, one of which denies overwatch in an AoE and makes tau cry.

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:10 pm

Cawl is not even funny. Don't they playtest anymore??

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:20 pm

I want to say fake...but damn I wouldn't be surprised if these are the actual rules

Also Vect on a grav platform?? That I hope is false, Dias any day please
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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:33 pm

@Jehoel wrote:
Cawl is not even funny. Don't they playtest anymore??

It wouldn't matter if they did. GW has all but said they don't play with any sort of competitive spirit. They create a ruleset fit for tactical/strategic play, then playtest like a bunch of fluffbunnies. Doing things like having Cawl start out in a tac squad on foot, marching 3 turns across the table to finally assault a unit of "heretical" guardsmen with an epic howl, "CHAAAAAAARGE!"

...Instead of dropping Cawl in on turn 1 with a drop pod and having him single-handedly take out a 525 point baneblade.

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:49 pm

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...Instead of dropping Cawl in on turn 1 with a drop pod and having him single-handedly take out a 525 point baneblade.

If Cawl is a CG for AdMech per the last FaQ you cant start embarked in an allied transport, so you cant get him in a drop pod. Am I missing something?

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:13 pm

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[b="BetrayTheWorld"]...Instead of dropping Cawl in on turn 1 with a drop pod and having him single-handedly take out a 525 point baneblade.

If Cawl is a CG for AdMech per the last FaQ you cant start embarked in an allied transport, so you cant get him in a drop pod. Am I missing something?[/quote]

No that's correct. One cannot start in an allies transport. Looks like he will have to be out in open to get the best effect. He has no eternal warrior so he is subject to instant death and strength D. Honestly, I feel like he's fairly inline with the rules GW has released this past year. Also, if he's killed does that prevent his faction from using canticles?
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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:37 pm

He is expensive - and succeptable to both Lance and Posion fire. And he is very bulky. He is very good, but not so much against DE. And he is slow.

Maybe in a servitor star he is good. Repairing them while leading, then heading off to chop some heads.

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:23 pm

@BizarreShowbiz wrote:

If Cawl is a CG for AdMech per the last FaQ you cant start embarked in an allied transport, so you cant get him in a drop pod. Am I missing something?

No, but it hasn't been that way for long. I was just citing an obvious example of differences in the way GW "playtesters" play vs. how everyone else does.

More on topic, faeit just released more rumours about the Eldar Triumverate: http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/rumors-eldar-truimvirate-box-set-vect.html

They're saying it's Vect, Asurmen, and Eldrad...which makes no sense to me. We have relatively recent rules for 2 out of 3 of those.

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:36 pm

Comparing these to say, an Eldar Phoenix Lord, they definitely are better for the points. That being said, everything here can be countered with sufficient poison/S6 so I don't see it changing much.

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PostSubject: Re: Triumvirate Rule Leak   Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:00 am

@TeenageAngst wrote:
Comparing these to say, an Eldar Phoenix Lord, they definitely are better for the points. That being said, everything here can be countered with sufficient poison/S6 so I don't see it changing much.

It takes 126 poison shots (ie, 10.5 Venoms or 682.5 points) to take out Celestine and her Geminae. If she passes a Ld test (Ld10) she comes back on full wounds and can immediately resurrect one of her Geminae and both then act normally. That's pretty bloody good for 200 points!

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