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PostSubject: Harlequin/DE 1850 pts   Thu Dec 22 2016, 01:54

+++ Harlequins and Dark eldar (1847pts) +++

++ Masque Detachment (915pts) ++

+ Elites (220pts) +

Shadowseer (60pts) [Mastery Level 1, Shuriken Pistol]

Shadowseer (100pts) [Mastery Level 2, Shuriken Pistol, The Mask of Secrets]

Shadowseer (60pts) [Mastery Level 1, Shuriken Pistol]

+ Troops (475pts) +

Troupe (205pts) [Starweaver]
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Troupe Master [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]

Troupe (135pts)
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Troupe Master [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]

Troupe (135pts)
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Player [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]
Troupe Master [Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol]

+ Fast Attack (140pts) +

Starweaver (70pts)

Starweaver (70pts)

+ Heavy Support (80pts) +

Voidweavers (80pts)
Voidweaver [Prismatic cannon]

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Dark Eldar: Codex) (497pts) ++

+ HQ (165pts) +

Court of the Archon (165pts) [4x Medusae]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

+ Troops (80pts) +

Kabalite Warriors (40pts) [5x Kabalite Warrior]

Kabalite Warriors (40pts) [5x Kabalite Warrior]

+ Fast Attack (252pts) +

Reavers (126pts) [2x Cluster caltrops, 6x Reaver]

Reavers (126pts) [2x Cluster caltrops, 6x Reaver]

++ Formation Detachment (Dark Eldar: Supplement - Haemonculus Covens v2001) (435pts) ++

+ Formation (435pts) +

Formation: Grotesquerie (435pts)
Grotesques
Grotesque [Close combat weapon]
Grotesque [Close combat weapon]
Grotesque [Close combat weapon]
Raider [Disintegrator, Enhanced Aethersails]
Grotesques
Grotesque [Close combat weapon]
Grotesque [Close combat weapon]
Grotesque [Close combat weapon]
Raider [Disintegrator, Enhanced Aethersails]
Haemonculus [Close combat weapon, Splinter Pistol, Webway portal]

So the idea of this list is being able to boost my grotesques and ravers forward into a flank or just down the enemies throat for a turn 2 charge. They bog down the enemy while my slower harlequins (all in starweavers) come from the back to clean up. Kabalites on foot hold down backfield objectives. Shadowseers take psychic shriek and the leadership debuffs from the masque or grotesques help. The haemonculus joins the medusa to pinpoint drop down on a unite and flame it.
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PostSubject: Re: Harlequin/DE 1850 pts   Thu Dec 22 2016, 06:17

Hi, fellow paingiver! :-) Here are my 50c.

IMO 4 medusae are an overkill. I used 3 and it was too much mostly. Especially with WWP, which is another overkill IMO. If you DS in a vehicle, you can disembark for 6'' (another 2'' you will get if you DS them in a Raider because its long). So no WWP needed here I think.

As for Harlies - I dont think troupes give us what we need most. Heroes' Path and maybe Cegorach's Jest are what I would (and am going to) use.

Too much psychic. You won't dominate a psychic phase and people give too much credit to the Shriek. There are better powers, especially for us.

No anti-tank to speak of. This list will get hard-countered by armoured lists and flyers in general I think. 1 RWJ and 1 VRB with missiles would totally wreck most things you have there.

I would consider the lack of ObjSec too. Tourneys, at least those I follow, are won through ObjSec.
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PostSubject: Re: Harlequin/DE 1850 pts   Thu Dec 22 2016, 12:36

So to add to ^^, some things to think about.

1 Your harlie troops are great mini-deathstars. You have kitted them out to destroy anything they touch (assuming they get there). Because of this, I would drop the Grotesquery. DE need MSU to be competitive, and with half your points tied up into 4 units, it will give you a hard time grabbing objectives

2 As said above, medusae are better in a raider (for the increased footprint, and survivability). Generally you will be holding it in reserve to DS, so you wont really get to use the Venom SC. Generally 2 will wipe a squad of 5 MEQ.

3 Use the points from the Grots on more Venom warriors. You will need to sacrifice many of them over the course of the game, so you need to have redundency. Our tactic is to sit back at 36" and shoot with our 12 poison shots. Then when we need an objective we get the warriors to jump out (to remain holding your objectives), and boost the venom up 30" to ObSec the enemy objectives. I have found that even 4 venom warrior squads left me wanting more.

At least this has been my experience
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PostSubject: Re: Harlequin/DE 1850 pts   Sat Dec 24 2016, 09:53

What do you guys think about dropping the masque and adding a large cast of players and a hero's path formation. That would save points and I could add more dark eldar or beef up my grotesque unit. Also I hear a lot of people say take a grotesque with scissor hands. Do they keep lethal dose? If I roll a 6 do I get a ap2 instant death hit?
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PostSubject: Re: Harlequin/DE 1850 pts   Mon Dec 26 2016, 03:43

No you have to chose between the weapons. If you use scissor hands 6's rend
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