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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 15:29

I agree and I'm hopeful; but those are definitely intact soul stones on him.

What if it's Ahra?

I'd buy 3.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 15:31

Ahra would certainly be cool and I'd buy dozens of him. Well, maybe a dozen. A few. A coup....ONE!!

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 15:32

Dozens.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 15:42

The retreating Imperial force is apparently saved by an Ulthwé strikforce, warriors from Biel-Tan and wyches from Commoragh according to a guy at Bolter and Chainsword
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 15:48

the lost phoenix lord? I had the same thought, it's a good time to unveil him!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 15:59

@RobinFS wrote:
The retreating Imperial force is apparently saved by an Ulthwé strikforce, warriors from Biel-Tan and wyches from Commoragh according to a guy at Bolter and Chainsword

Unsettling news if true, would lend weight to the theory that GW want to merge the various Eldar groups into one faction in the 8th edition.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 16:06

@Vorl-Xoelanth wrote:
@RobinFS wrote:
The retreating Imperial force is apparently saved by an Ulthwé strikforce, warriors from Biel-Tan and wyches from Commoragh according to a guy at Bolter and Chainsword

Unsettling news if true, would lend weight to the theory that GW want to merge the various Eldar groups into one faction in the 8th edition.

But it could mean some wych updates!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 16:07

I don't mind a merged eldar faction provided it's done right, pitched as a disparate set of factions uneasily forced to co-operate, with desperate Harlequins working to patch up the fraying edges of their alliance.

I'm more unsettled by the growing tendency for the Eldar in general to come to the rescue of the primitive mon-keigh...

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 16:10

Well if the rats keep down the roaches you wouldn't want them gone.

Much easier to clean up the imperial droppings then a chaos infestation. When we retake the galaxy.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 16:11

Don't we already have a model for Arhra, albeit called Drazhar?

Anyway the design is very dark eldary, but all that craftworlders worries me a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 16:24

I guess like with anything it depends on how its executed. If they're nuanced with the fluff and it benefits the rules for the DE miniatures then it could be good.

However I just worry that each army will lose it's distinct identity if united under a whole as GW will want to make the faction more streamlined as opposed 3 separate armies tacked together. Dark Eldar could just become 'the edgy line of miniatures' for the Eldar Undivided army.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 16:36

Actually I can see the eldar going the way of chaos. A single army composed by different factions that can be mixed and matched using diffent sources (khorne daemonkin, traitor legion, traitor's hate, wrath of magnus).
Now I'm pumped thinking about eldar undivided.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 16:37

Read this on another forum:

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The Imperial Fleet limps away from Cadia, Phalanx at the head and the Mechanicum ships holding the rear.  Or the remains of Cadia anyway.  It's being dragged into the warp... soon to become a Demon World?  Time will tell.  The Black Fleet harasses the evacuation fleet, but without much effort.  Of the 850 million souls that stood on Cadia at the beginning of the attack, barely 2.5 million made it off the surface.  Abaddon is content to let them survivors run and spread word of the defeat... until one of his Sorcerors reveals a vision.  There is an artefact onboard Cawl's arkship.  What is it?  I'll quote this next part directly, because it seems pretty huge.  Speculation please!

"[the Sorcerer] spoke a name.  One Abaddon had put from his thoughts long ago.  It seemed impossible, but such words had as much currency now as they had when Horus first set foot on Davin."

Whatever the name was, it spurs Abaddon on to capture Cawl's ship.  The Evacuation fleet has just about made it to the edge of the system to jump into the Warp, when the Vengeful Spirit catches up.  The Phalanx and the other Imperial Ships are too far into their jump countdown to abort and escape into the Warp.  The Mechanicus ships, holding the rear, are not so lucky.  Cawl tries to outrun the Chaos ships, using the rest of his ships as a sacrifice.  The Vengeful Spirit burns straight through them.  Celestine reveals a vision she has - head for the outer planet.  Our Salvation is there.  Greyfax is not at all keen on it, but has no other real choice.  Cawl believes Celestine speaks as the voice of the Omnissiah so he's for it (and maybe he realises that's why that Harlequin sent to him to Cadia in the first place.... not to study the Pylons but to meet up with Celestine).  Marshal Alamaric is also on board with whatever Celestine is up to.

They land on the planet, and begin a trek up its mountains with Cawl carrying the artefact on a Triaros Conveyor.  Battle Sisters, Black Templars, House Taranis Knights, Greyfax's Militarum Tempestus bodyguard, Cawl, Greyfax and Marshal Amalrich are following Celestine as she leads them... somewhere.  They initially manage to avoid the Black Legion forces searching for them, but soon run into patrols which eventually starts bringing masses of forces to them.  Half of the Black Templars, led by the Crusade's Emperor's Champion, hold back in a sacrifice to buy them time.  It doesn't seem like much, as the Black Legion hounds them up the mountains.  But Celestine leads them on... right into an Eldar trap.  For the Black Legion.  Eldar forces burst out between the Imperials and the Black Legion, covering the Imperial Forces and laying waste to the Black Legion.  It's too much - unprepared for fighting Eldar, the Black Legion fall back.  Abaddon tries to push forward twice, and is twice beaten back by Eldar.  Which Eldar forces do you ask?  There's an "Ulthwe Strike Force, alongside Wyches of Commorragh, Warriors of Biel-Tan and a number of other craftworlds".  Eldrad is there, as noticed by Cawl, who is surprised at all the disparate Eldar factions fighting together.

The Harlequin Shadowseer that Cawl had prior dealings with is there too.  "What is this?" asks Cawl.  "Into the light of a new dawn," the Shadowseer answers.  Up ahead Cawl can see Celestine hovering above the opening of a Webway Portal, guiding the Imperials through.  "The ending has passed.", says the Harlequin, "It is time for a new beginning.  There is a parley to be struck, if you have the courage."

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 16:45

@Count Adhemar wrote:
"It is time for a new beginning.  There is a parley to be struck, if you have the courage."

Order grand coalition here we come Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 16:54

It certainly looks like GW is heading in that direction. I can see 8e having no codexes but just individual datasheets and formations that you can freely pick within your chosen 'grand alliance'.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 17:15


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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 17:35

Wow, actual progression! Looks like a Shadowseer (coinciding with the rumors), blank face-plate, phantasm grenade launchers (?), some sort of sword.

Also appears to be a fir-lined cloak on his back. I doubt its the same guy as the BT pic, but I have been wrong before.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 17:40

Is that a Kabalite Warrior?

I'm not sure if I'd like a grand Faction, consisting of imperials AND Eldar.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 17:41

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He could just be on something, but I think the most important note here is that (judging from the helmet vane) this is an Eldar and not a Dark Eldar, despite coloration and style indicating otherwise.

Well on closer inspection that vane is not quite as certain as I thought. I do believe one can make out a single handed straight blade in his right hand.

The left side also appears to be a sword but it's impossible to tell what is and isn't his model.
As I've said several times before, his helmet is identical to one found on the Kabalite Warrior sprues, and half the helmets on that sprue have the pointy spike on top.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 17:41

Ofc. Makes sense. If you were GW and wanted more sales, which units would you try to promote from DE codex? Those that the players didnt buy much - hellions and wyches. Thats why wyches are the feature here and Hellions in GoG. About time... :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 17:51

@fisheyes wrote:
Wow, actual progression! Looks like a Shadowseer (coinciding with the rumors), blank face-plate, phantasm grenade launchers (?), some sort of sword.

Also appears to be a fir-lined cloak on his back. I doubt its the same guy as the BT pic, but I have been wrong before.

Doesn't look like an Hallucinogen/Phantasm grenade launcher to me,the perspectives off but it just looks too long and thin for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 19:48

He could be one of the gaurdians of the black library ... Or a new unit for an overall eldar faction that basically looks like all of them put into one? Not sure just making a guess
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 20:25

@Skulnbonz

Definitely the same individual from the art in the OP.

The prongs on his back are identical to incubi trophy racks. And look carefully in the middle of his torso in this latest picture, you can see a dagger hilt identical to the ones you find in the plastic kabalite kits that go on their hips. Also as others have pointed out the single spike on the top of his conical helm. Everything in his aesthetics points to either dark eldar or perhaps corsair. Isn't this shadowseer character mentioned supposed to be a Harlequin? Doesn't look colourful or patterned enough for that.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 20:34

Perhaps Eldar Exodites.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Wed Jan 11 2017, 22:55

@Vorl-Xoelanth wrote:
@Skulnbonz

Definitely the same individual from the art in the OP.

The prongs on his back are identical to incubi trophy racks. And look carefully in the middle of his torso in this latest picture, you can see a dagger hilt identical to the ones you find in the plastic kabalite kits that go on their hips. Also as others have pointed out the single spike on the top of his conical helm. Everything in his aesthetics points to either dark eldar or perhaps corsair. Isn't this shadowseer character mentioned supposed to be a Harlequin? Doesn't look colourful or patterned enough for that.
I'm pretty sure it's not the Shadowseer, who would have to be a Harlequin because they're the only ones with Shadowseers and which we know is Sylendri Veilwalker thanks to shots of a page in FoC listing all the characters, due to a distinct lack of boobs. On a side note it would be awesome if Sylendri gets a model, she's a recurring Harlequin character heavily involved with Prince Yriel since Hive Fleet Kraken invaded Iyanden.

I'd say he's almost certainly an Archon or some other high ranking Kabalite. Corsairs don't make much sense as they're a Forgeworld faction and Exodites being anywhere but a Maiden World makes no sense at all.

He's also not that big as some people are suggesting. I know he looks huge compared to the Wraithguard infront but if you compare him to the Windriders he's next to then he's standard infantry sized, it's just the perspective on that pic is messed up.
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