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PostSubject: 1850 DE List - Total newbie   Tue Jun 28 2016, 23:57

Hey guys.  Brand new to 40k, and being the contrary sort I've settled on Dark Eldar for my first army.  I've been doing my homework and have put together a list that I would love to have some feedback on:

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Succubus Archite Glaive Armor of Misery Haywire Grenade WWP 150

Troop
2x Kabalites (5) Venom w/ Cannon 210
2x Kabalites (10) Raider w/ lance racks and sails 320

Fast
2x Reavers (3) w/ caltrops 126
Scourges (5) 4x haywire 120

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3x Ravager 3x lance and sails 390

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Haemunculus Scissorhand WWP Nightmare Doll 150
2x Grotesques (3) Aberation w/ Scissorhand in Raider w/ lance and sails 380

For a total of 1846

Like I said, I am brand new to the game, so any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated!
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 DE List - Total newbie   Wed Jun 29 2016, 00:12

Why the sails on the ravagers? You're not likely to need to turbo boost with them.

Other than that this looks pretty solid. I would also suggest taking the sails off of the raiders. You could argue against that if you think they may need to do an extreme dash to an objective.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 DE List - Total newbie   Wed Jun 29 2016, 01:01

For the most part I was just filling out points, same with the Nightmare Doll on the Haemunculous.  I am pretty sure I can trim down a few upgrades for (probably) another unit of venom-borne kabalites, but I thought I would see what feedback was on offer and make sure I was headed in the right direction before I paint the trim, as it were.

Thanks a lot for your input, I am glad to know that I am in the ballpark at least  Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 DE List - Total newbie   Wed Jun 29 2016, 01:19

Fairly solid list & common around these parts.

General advice would be to drop the Warriors Raiders for Venoms & the sails off everything, assuming you plan to DS both Grot. squads with the WWP's. (2 WWP's is legal right?)

Another recent list has a very similar theme & it was suggested to drop the upgrades to free up points for a 2nd CAD, paying only a 10pt tax to take more Ravagers.

http://www.thedarkcity.net/t13999-1850-pts-of-gunboats

I would say at least another HWB Scourges squad & and roll the Reavers into a 6 man squad.

Either way, you have the points to drop upgrades & bring a whole other squad.

There is alot of advice around, see what others have posted, the advice is usually the same Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 DE List - Total newbie   Wed Jun 29 2016, 02:53

Thanks for the link, I had missed a bunch of very pertinent replies to that thread since I looked at it over the weekend.

I appreciate the input. I don't doubt a lot of these advice threads get pretty repetitive, but it's a big investment to get started, and it's greatly appreciated to have some veterans weigh in before I sign my life over to GW Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 DE List - Total newbie   Wed Jun 29 2016, 21:30

I know exactly what you mean, Triavan. It's one of the reasons I try so hard to ensure accurate information is available here, and opinions don't go unchallenged. I don't like to see people spend a bunch of money on models they're not happy with.

The guys here gave pretty good advice. The only thing I'd add is that I wouldn't bother with the WWPs on characters if you're putting them in raiders with the grots. Deep striking them means that they can't charge till turn 3 at the earliest, whereas if you start on the table, you could potentially assault turn 1.

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PostSubject: Re: 1850 DE List - Total newbie   Thu Jun 30 2016, 08:43

Sorry for the delayed response...  I hadn't thought about DS delaying the usage on those Grots, it does make more sense to table them.  Thanks for that.  

I very much appreciate you weighing in, I've taken a lot of your advice on the Dark City boards along my learning curve.  Aside from feeling a little obsessive for planning to kit bash Grotesques on my first army... I am pretty happy with where my list has landed.  Thanks to all three of you gentlemen for the pointers.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 DE List - Total newbie   Fri Jul 01 2016, 16:04

Glad to help. Good luck with your list, and let us know if you have any other questions! Wink

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