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Xm0shcryptX
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PostSubject: Please help!!   Fri Nov 20 2015, 07:40

Really trying to be a top notch tournament player and could use some vet advice. Here is my newest 1850 I'm drawing up.

DE CAD
Archon wwp, agonizer, hwg. 125
Archon wwp 95

3x 5 warriors with blaster 165

3 venoms dual sc 195

3 ravagers 3 dissies war 330

5 scourge 4 hwb 120

Aspect host formation

5 fire dragons exarch 120

4 dark reapers exarch and star missles 147

6 swooping Hawks exarch 106

CWE CAD

Autarch with fusion gun 80

2x 3Wind riders 51

5 wraith guard d scythes 210

Have issues with both fire dragons or wraith guard getting bogged down in cc. (People charge a crappy unit and soak up the d flamers) so not sure where to put the cc archon but I guess I'll figure that out later.

Anyway dragons and Autarch plus archon take a raider. Plus Autarch helps reserve

Wraith guard and archon come in and wreck per usual.

Might try and keep bikes in reserve as long as possible for late objective grabbing.

Any help would be awesome. Thanks fellow dark ones
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PostSubject: Re: Please help!!   Fri Nov 20 2015, 08:17

I would go double fire dragon and ditch the wraith. Drop either the hawks or the reapers to make room for that second dragon unit. Then I would add either a Dark Artisan or a Grotesquier. Reason is you may want to go second and reserve your entire army except something that can take a punch or twelve. ie Dark Artisan or Grots. You may also want to consider dropping one of the ravagers and maybe some wargear here and there for a Crimson Hunter. It has always helped me in every game, even in games against armies with no flyers. 4 st8 shots is always nice. Just my two cents, hope it helps
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PostSubject: Re: Please help!!   Fri Nov 20 2015, 10:23

Im with Nariaklizhar.
Drop them Hawks and get a 2nd unit of Fire Dragons. Absolutely lethal, especially in the Aspect Formation. I'd also change your CC Archon to a 2nd WWP carrier to free up points /caddie for the Dragons. Much more useful.
Not sure about the D-Guard (never used them)

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PostSubject: Re: Please help!!   Fri Nov 20 2015, 18:57

Scythe guard regular erase the nasty things on the board handidly. Some guy I played had a space wolf Death Star thing can't remember what he called it but it was 1400 for the one unit. Scythe guard took out 900 ish the instant they came in. So glorious. And feasting on tears never tasted so good. Anyway I can definitely see the utility of replacing Hawks for more dragons, even putting them in a raider but that would scatter with deep strike and I have the worst luck with scattering so not sure what to do about that
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PostSubject: Re: Please help!!   Fri Nov 20 2015, 19:10

Scatter isn't to big if a deal in a raider. Disembark 6 inches, battle focus, and youre good
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PostSubject: Re: Please help!!   Sat Nov 21 2015, 07:40

Here's the updated version

De cad
Archon wwp hwg 100
Archon wwp 95

3x 5 warriors 120

3 venoms dual sc 195

3 ravagers 330

5 scourge 4 hwb 120

2 raiders 110

Aspect host

5 fire dragons exarch 120

5 fire dragons exarch 120

4 dark reapers with starshot missles 147

CWE cad

Autarch with fusion gun 80

2x 3 wind riders 102

5 wraithguard with d scythes 210

Comes to 1849
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PostSubject: Re: Please help!!   Sat Nov 21 2015, 21:22

So what's the plan with the wraith guard? Raider? Wwp?
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PostSubject: Re: Please help!!   Sat Nov 21 2015, 21:47

Just wwp, I need the no scatter for them to be nasty
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PostSubject: Re: Please help!!   Sun Nov 22 2015, 06:23

It's a good list! I really like the 9 dissy cannons, very killey. I wonder if there is anyway to give your bikes scatter laser? You don't necessarily need them, but they would help out a lot agajnst light armour stuff.
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