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PostSubject: 1750p Dark Eldar/Harlequin list for a GT   Sun Nov 01 2015, 12:03

Hi guys, been a long time since I last posted. I just wanted to share with you the list im fielding for the next spanish team-based GT. There will be 22 4-man teams, to a total of 88 players. My team is  composed of a Necron decurion, Eldar S6/D spam, Ork Warboss deathstar+Stompa and me with DE+Harlequin mech.

The games will consist of 50% Eternal War mission 25% Maelstrom mission 12.5% anhilation (by points, not units) and 12.5% secondary objectives

Harlequin Masque detachment (main)  

Elite  
Shadowseer, haywire nades, mask of secrets
Shadowseer, haywire nades
Shadowseer, haywire nades

Troops
Troupe, x4 Players, x1 Troupemaster with haywire nades (Warlord), x5 Harlequin caress.
Troupe, x4 Players, x1 Troupemaster, x5 Harlequin caresses
Troupe, x4 Players, x1 Troupemaster, x5 Harlequin caresses

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Starweaver
Starweaver

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Voidweaver

Dark Eldar Realspace Raiders detachment

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Court of the Archon. x1 Llhamaean
-Venom, x2 splinter cannons

Troops
x5 Kabalite warriors incluiding Sybarite with haywire grenades
-Venom, x2 splinter cannons
x5 Kabalite warriors incluiding Sybarite with haywire grenades
-Venom, x2 splinter cannons

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Venom, x2 splinter cannons
Venom, x2 splinter cannons
Venom, x2 splinter cannons
Raider, dissintegrator
Raider, dissintegrator
Raider, dissintegrator

HS
x2 Talos

I would have loved to use a Corpsethief Claw formation but the tournament forbids more than 2 detachments and really need the anti-gargantuan/superheavy that the harlequins bring that cant be done efficiently with Dark Eldar alone.

Wish us luck! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 1750p Dark Eldar/Harlequin list for a GT   Tue Nov 03 2015, 03:20

Good luck! Pardon my ignorance, I don't play Harlequins; what is the purpose of having 3 raiders with dissys? Are they for the Harlequin troops?
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PostSubject: Re: 1750p Dark Eldar/Harlequin list for a GT   Tue Nov 03 2015, 09:29

Are the shadow seers level2?

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PostSubject: Re: 1750p Dark Eldar/Harlequin list for a GT   Thu Nov 05 2015, 02:10

@Nariaklizhar wrote:
Good luck! Pardon my ignorance, I don't play Harlequins; what is the purpose of having 3 raiders with dissys? Are they for the Harlequin troops?

Thanks! Very Happy Yeah, theyre basically a cheap, disposable 3HP transport in case I want to go ham with harlequins not lose starweavers firepower (they are the only long range AV I have)

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Are the shadow seers level2?
No, they're lvl1.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750p Dark Eldar/Harlequin list for a GT   Thu Nov 05 2015, 07:59

With respect - I think the list is average at best then.

Its like you could not make up your mind what you wanted to achieve.

The Harlequins are to small and squishy to have a major impact, the seers to easy to neutralise in the psychic phase with so few dice.

For me - the whole thing lacks punch. It does not shoot particularly well and while assault is ok, its still easy to put the harlies down after the first charge. Ranged AT is all but non existent and even close range or assault AT is dubious - and potentially on fire once they trash a vehicle.

What exactly would you consider a good match up for your list?

Eldar/Tau/Necrons/SM/DA all destroy it with ease with the most common army builds.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750p Dark Eldar/Harlequin list for a GT   Tue Nov 10 2015, 09:53

@Massaen wrote:
With respect - I think the list is average at best then.

Its like you could not make up your mind what you wanted to achieve.

The Harlequins are to small and squishy to have a major impact, the seers to easy to neutralise in the psychic phase with so few dice.

For me - the whole thing lacks punch. It does not shoot particularly well and while assault is ok, its still easy to put the harlies down after the first charge. Ranged AT is all but non existent and even close range or assault AT is dubious - and potentially on fire once they trash a vehicle.

What exactly would you consider a good match up for your list?

Eldar/Tau/Necrons/SM/DA all destroy it with ease with the most common army builds.

I would love to read some constructive criticism from you so I can improve it. What would you change? how?

In my experience, I never had any problems with the psychic phase or lacked punch except in the first game, wich I could have won simply by moving better, but Im open to any ways of improving it.

Oh, if you guys can hear how the GT went I just posted the results on the Realspace Raids section. http://www.thedarkcity.net/t13184-team-based-gt-results-talavera-spain#149639


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PostSubject: Re: 1750p Dark Eldar/Harlequin list for a GT   Wed Nov 11 2015, 00:16

I'm a big fan of caressquins, and what you have in your masque is pretty close to my usual set up. I put a DT starweaver on one of the troupes, and upgrade all the seers to level 2. Caressquins are awesome anti tank in my experience.

The sybarites with haywire I'm not a fan of though. In your experience have they accomplished much? (I'm going to read the Raid post next). I've been tempted previously, and seriously considered getting sybarites to get PGLs (not a ton of marines in my area), but they're just sooooo many points for what you get.

If it were me, I'd drop a couple of the venoms to get more talos, as I absolutely love them. Shame on the detachment limitation...I think a CTC will really mesh well with the Masque.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750p Dark Eldar/Harlequin list for a GT   Wed Nov 11 2015, 09:23

@Fraust wrote:
I'm a big fan of caressquins, and what you have in your masque is pretty close to my usual set up. I put a DT starweaver on one of the troupes, and upgrade all the seers to level 2. Caressquins are awesome anti tank in my experience.

The sybarites with haywire I'm not a fan of though. In your experience have they accomplished much? (I'm going to read the Raid post next). I've been tempted previously, and seriously considered getting sybarites to get PGLs (not a ton of marines in my area), but they're just sooooo many points for what you get.

If it were me, I'd drop a couple of the venoms to get more talos, as I absolutely love them. Shame on the detachment limitation...I think a CTC will really mesh well with the Masque.

I have haywire sybarits just and only to deal with OS drop pods in objectives, as harlequins can do nothing to them (theyre inmobilized, you you dont roll to hit) and starweavers have to roll 6s to do a glancing. I only have them in the 2 obligatory troop choices, I wouldnt pay an extra 55p for just a grenade.

Im with you on the CTC train. An invisible CTC can be a pain in thea ass for everyone in this meta except for walker superheavies (IKs, stompa...) and our harlequins can deal extremely efficiently with those.

Thing is, in this tournament, we were limited to 2 detachments max. (what I consider pretty stupid, since Decurion-type formations count as only 1 detachment when in reality they normally are 3+ formations, so its unfair for older codices but whatever.) so I prefered an Harlequin Masque over a CTC as extra detachment.

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