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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Mon Oct 19 2015, 18:03

The newest Archon looks like a baby with wind. Who may or may not have soiled himself.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Mon Oct 19 2015, 18:43

WrackYourBrains wrote:
The newest Archon looks like a baby with wind. Who may or may not have soiled himself.

Well, maybe it just hit him that he has all the resiliency of a cream-cracker, and that he's armed with amounts to a flintlock pistol and a breadknife. I think soiling himself is an appropriate reaction. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Mon Oct 19 2015, 21:21

HaAha.Thats a great description. One of the few models I won't own.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Mon Oct 19 2015, 22:02

Well they say an Archon should be silent and deadly, so maybe it does fit with the fluff after all! You can always just swap the head out though; I used the scarred male wych head with a top-knot made from the top of a sybarite helmet. Makes him look a little more arrogant and a little less gassy.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Tue Oct 20 2015, 02:01

I could put some pictures of them up, but I'd have to take a pic with my ipod, and i'm not sure if the pic on its cam would be good, and how I'd send it over to here pretty easily.

second. Yes, I was NOT a fan of the newest Archons Face. which is why I did have to swap the head out for a different Helmet. haha.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Fri Jan 29 2016, 01:49

Definitely the 5th edition Archon. The current one is okay, but he always looks like a vampire that just woke up in his coffin. Maybe I should make him one and just lay him out on the deck of a Raider. Vampire Counts....IN SPACE!
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Fri Jan 29 2016, 03:36

5th Edition Archon all the way.

The new one looks too much like a pirate wannabe for my taste.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Fri Jan 29 2016, 12:38

Ultra Magnus wrote:
Definitely the 5th edition Archon. The current one is okay, but he always looks like a vampire that just woke up in his coffin. Maybe I should make him one and just lay him out on the deck of a Raider. Vampire Counts....IN SPACE!

See, I'd actually be fine with a vampire-y Archon. But, whilst this one has the same pose as a really awkward vampire lying in a coffin, the comparison ends there. It looks more like someone cosplaying as a vampire.

In fact, it looks like he accidentally wore magnetic armour and is now seriously regretting it.

"Help! I can't move my legs any further apart! Maybe if I... oh crap, now my arms are locked together! OW! Why did I have to do this next to the fishing supply shop? What's that creaking behind me? Oh damn, why did I wear a big metal blade on my back? Now it's bending towards me. Why did I put the spikes facing me? OH GOD it's pulling these metal beads through my head!!!"


Also, did I mention that his head looks like someone scrawled some features onto a potato?
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Fri Jan 29 2016, 14:32

Personally I don't like the look of the new Archon. The body pose is fine to me but the crossed arms just looks silly. I do have one though and he is primed and base coated... just will never use him as I don't plan on bringing an Archon in any of my lists and if I do bring an Archon I just use the Succubus model as a stand in.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Fri Jan 29 2016, 23:31

I use a 5th edition model or one built from the warrior kit with the other head from my archon kit (this one has a blaster). The new succubus model looks great. I've got two. One isn't built yet with plans to convert it to a female solitaire or another succubus if the need arises.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Sat Jan 30 2016, 02:47

I’m in the 3rd edition archon camp. He “I where your face on my face, your argument is invalid” thing I just too much dark eldar. That and the nostalgic memory, then he slayed a bloodthirstier with his agonizer.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Sat Jan 30 2016, 03:58

I think they all have their charms, but I really like the newest. I completely see where people are coming from with their criticism, but I think overall it gets the general aesthetic of the line correct, while playing with a sort of sarcastic over-the-top ridiculousness that I appreciate (and perhaps I'm giving the designers more credit than they deserve when I imagine such an intent), and that also is strongly connected to the pimp-hand pony-hair archon of yore in this sense.

I like the pose, feeling it conveys a sense of mocking superiority (though I do admit it has shades of sphincter-clenching about it) pretty well. I like that they recreated the face from the 5th ed codex cover, however approximately. And I cant help but like the edgy-teen crossed arms, I think again because I like to imagine it as a snide tip-of-the-hat to the absurdity of the whole ultra grimdark DE "thing".
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Sat Jan 30 2016, 14:35

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I like the pose, feeling it conveys a sense of mocking superiority (though I do admit it has shades of sphincter-clenching about it) pretty well. I like that they recreated the face from the 5th ed codex cover, however approximately. And I cant help but like the edgy-teen crossed arms, I think again because I like to imagine it as a snide tip-of-the-hat to the absurdity of the whole ultra grimdark DE "thing".
+1... Gotta say I would prefer the current plastic one over the 5th ed one (if I hade any of them!)
Old school is always the way to go as far as archons are concerned though!
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Sat Jan 30 2016, 15:50

That model is begging for a guitar.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Sat Jan 30 2016, 16:53

definitely! And that is also what it all boils down to I guess. The 3rd ed archons had this crazy extravagant vibe that just falls in line perfectly with DE in my mind; egotistic, megalomaniacal and not afraid to show it

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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Sun Jan 31 2016, 12:50

Scourges and Reavers are my favorite DE models, so I wish the rest of the army, archon included, had helmets more like them. I don't like the warrior/archon masks with the cheekbones and T visors as much as the Garuda beaks and mirror plates

But one of the coolest DE helmet designs doesn't have a model, just artwork 2.bp.blogspot.com/_-ni66Nct_tY/TLN4kboPCxI/AAAAAAAAAUA/2UoaF7XlUGE/s1600/deldar.gif
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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Sun Jan 31 2016, 18:39

I like both of them. But new one is more classy. Even more classy than old one.
And archon from 5th edition can be easy converted to almost anything

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PostSubject: Re: Do you prefer the old archon mini or the new?   Sun Jan 31 2016, 23:13

Devilogical wrote:
I like both of them. But new one is more classy. Even more classy than old one.
And archon from 5th edition can be easy converted to almost anything

He looked a lot like a Klaivex. Hopefully GW remembers that when/if they are making a plastic kit for Incubi...
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