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PostSubject: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 01:14

I've been toying with a weapon option for Ravagers and Razorwings. Not sure on the points cost, but would be interested in people's thoughts.

Heavy Haywire Blaster. Range: 36". Strength 4. AP 4. Heavy 2, Haywire.

It'd give our air-to-air a much needed boost and would actually make sense with the schizophrenic loadout for the Razorwing, with the HHB giving it AV while the Splinter Cannon deals with biological threats.
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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 01:30

For the sake of army unity, what would you think about letting them take Void Storm Projectors?
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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 08:45

There is a heavy version in the harlequin army (haywire cannon). It is blast and inferior to the normal special weapon:

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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 08:51

*flat tone* blast on a haywire weapon. really. That is all of the dumb.

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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 10:24

Theres also the Reaper's Storm Vortex Projector.
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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 10:26

*Looks up the Reaper*
I gotta get me one of those!

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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 10:29

What does it do?

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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 11:40

It's a Ravager that can actually kill things!
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/r/Reaper.pdf

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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 12:00

FuelDrop wrote:
It's a Ravager that can actually kill things!
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/r/Reaper.pdf

If it doesn't have to jink. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 12:03

Vasara wrote:
FuelDrop wrote:
It's a Ravager that can actually kill things!
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/r/Reaper.pdf

If it doesn't have to jink. Sad
Come on, how often do Dark Eldar vehicles need to jink?
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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 12:49

Storm Vortex was what I meant, my bad.
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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Fri Jul 10 2015, 13:00

I don't think that making Storm Vortex weapons generally available is good... except possibly on the void raven... as it canonically requires the entire vehicle built around it. Rapid-fire haywire on the other hand would give our fighters a shot against enemy aircraft (something they badly need).

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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Sat Jul 11 2015, 01:50

I think blast makes more sense that rapid fire, since that is how haywire fields are described as working. I could definitely see giving the vehicle more than one haywire weapon, though. (They have two lances, after all.)
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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Sat Jul 11 2015, 01:55

Blast for haywire isn't good, since 9 times out of 10 what you're doing is making it less accurate for no benefit. After all, haywire is only good against vehicles and you'll rarely be catching multiple vehicles in a normal blast. It also means no Air-to-Air.

I'd be down with Haywire Missiles or Bombs with large blasts or bigger though.
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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Sat Jul 11 2015, 04:43

I'd definitely be down with large blasts. But are you sure about it being less accurate? 1/3 of the time you get a solid hit, and even when it scatters (if your target is a vehicle) a 3" average scatter isn't going to put you completely off of most vehicles, I wouldn't think. (I haven't crunched all the math involved, I'm just going off the top of my head, and really just curious.)
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PostSubject: Re: New weapon idea: Heavy Haywire Blaster   Sat Jul 11 2015, 08:01

Not sure. I know that back when my Fire Prism was shooting blasts as an AT option I always wished it was direct fire.

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