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Jimsolo
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Fri Jul 03 2015, 17:38

What did he mean about twin linked, though?
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Fri Jul 03 2015, 17:48

@Jimsolo wrote:
What did he mean about twin linked, though?

Yeah, that was what was tripping me up.
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Fri Jul 03 2015, 18:19

CWE can reroll once per turn. Could that be it?
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Fri Jul 03 2015, 18:47

@Jimsolo wrote:
CWE can reroll once per turn.  Could that be it?

Not sure how that qualifies as "ours". Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Fri Jul 03 2015, 23:19

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I know it might be heresy, but I have a tough time winning with Dark Eldar alone. Quite lately, I've been dipping a lot into Wraiths from CWE. I find that a raider / tauntalus is the perfect delivery mechanism for our slow and lumber CWE brothers. Couple wraith staying power (I prefer Ghost Axes), with our ability to move troops 30" in a turn, it makes for a deadly combination. I've fought against the new Space Marine list, with all the free transports) and smushed him.

Use our CWE brothers as sacrificial quasi-meatshields, so we can do what we do best; fire a crap ton of weapons and hope not to be blown up.

The Point is Power Creep, its just keeps going up and up, And forcing me to Play a Power Creep book with my DE (CWE) just to stand a chance is why Im done with them for now.

and 1 Unit of Wraith would do 1 thing and get shot up with Grav-guns, 1 unit shooting them would kill them.

Also Reroll Jink DA bikes are Insanely good.

Have you guys played the DA new book yet? I played it a couple times the other night..... In a Way for Us its worst than SM new book.

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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Fri Jul 03 2015, 23:30

In what way?
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 00:22

We have the least options in the game for dealing with cover saves, and the few we get are lackluster at best. Rerollable 2+ cover saves break us given that we suck at melee as well
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 01:11

Stop whining and mouring altogether, you sound like the slave races.
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 01:50

Last time I checked slaves were not able to abuse their masters with ease...
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 02:17

They don't. Had the pleasure to play against most of the new craziness and I never felt overwhelmed. When I lost it was due to mistakes on my side

Just had a tournament this weekend with a centstar, a battle company and dark angels bike spam.
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 09:00

@Xalopec wrote:
Stop whining and mouring altogether, you sound like the slave races.

Haven't you heard? We *are* the slaves now.

Hence why our codex is Eldar: Taxi Service. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 10:27

@The Shredder wrote:
@Xalopec wrote:
Stop whining and mouring altogether, you sound like the slave races.

Haven't you heard? We *are* the slaves now.

Hence why our codex is Eldar: Taxi Service. Razz

lol!

Reading through the internet that seems to be 100% accurate.

I don't get why my personal experience is so different than what seems to be the overall consens. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 10:43

Different meta
Non competitive gameplay
Underwhelming opponents

There are a lot of reasons why experience can differ.
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 11:07

@Leninade wrote:
.....given that we suck at melee as well

Huh? How so? Grotesques, Talos, Incubi (yeah I said it!) are all perfectly valid assault units

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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 11:17

Well, I play in south Germany and basically just on tournaments. Superheavies are not allowed besides the imperial knight. Also unrestricted D and invisibility.

We are short on flyrant spam but besides that most ahole lists are there; Decurion, scatter bikes spam, grav spam, screamerstar, draigo cent star, battle company, dark angel bike spam (all rerollable jinks... Seriously who came up with that crap? ) and of course tau.

I usually play 2/3 dark eldar and 1/3 craftworld.
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 11:17

@Xalopec what did you take? I'd like to see that battle reports. How did you cope with the cheese?
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 12:06

@Xalopec wrote:
I usually play 2/3 dark eldar and 1/3 craftworld.

Have you tried pure DE against those lists?
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 12:54

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I usually play 2/3 dark eldar and 1/3 craftworld.

Mystery solved. You are using Eldar to compensate.
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 15:46

So a single drop of CWE contaminates the list?

Lol. Racist. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 17:46

33 % is hardly a single drop. Except there are only 3 drops. Then it is.
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 17:57

@Jimsolo wrote:
So a single drop of CWE contaminates the list?

Lol. Racist. Very Happy

I know, right.

It would be like saying that a pint that's 2/3 beer and 1/3 cyanide is contaminated with cyanide. What rubbish.

On an unrelated note, would anyone like a drink? Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 19:09

If it were 2/3 DE and 1/3 Harlies would it change much? That filthy contamination thingy?

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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 19:24

But when the imperials group together it's okay? And what if the Eldar are converted to look dark Eldar y?
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 20:04

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But when the imperials group together it's okay?

All of the mentioned "problem armies" are standalone.
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PostSubject: Re: Played against New SM book..... Im done with DE for now.   Mon Sep 28 2015, 20:04

@The Shredder wrote:
@Jimsolo wrote:
So a single drop of CWE contaminates the list?

Lol. Racist. Very Happy

I know, right.

It would be like saying that a pint that's 2/3 beer and 1/3 cyanide is contaminated with cyanide. What rubbish.

On an unrelated note, would anyone like a drink? Twisted Evil

No, but it IS like saying it isn't a beer.
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