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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Wed May 13 2015, 08:18

I actually expected the witches to be immune to over watch when I heard DE were getting a new book. I was very disappointed when I saw they didn't. Now banshees have it..
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Wed May 13 2015, 09:18

@shadowseercB wrote:
I actually expected the witches to be immune to over watch when I heard DE were getting a new book. I was very disappointed when I saw they didn't.  Now banshees have it..

No reason for Wyches to be immune to overwatch but is it really too much to ask for them to get their Dodge save against it? It's not like they have power weapons or increased movement for less than 3 points per model!!

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Wed May 13 2015, 18:19

Bloodbrides should be somewhat better in options. Like at the very minimum power weapons per 3 or something
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Wed May 13 2015, 19:23

Agreed bloodbrides need more weapon options.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Wed May 13 2015, 21:32

Call me cynical, but if GW makes a Wych supplement, I half expect the turn 6 ability for power from pain to be allowing the dodge on overwatch, and no overwatch for turn 7.

Realistically, wyches should be WS 5, with bloodbrides WS 6.

*sigh* The new eldar codex makes me sad.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Wed May 13 2015, 22:38

Wyches should be and have little to know shooting weapons. Alas, those are called incubi but for some odd reason they all have great ballistic skill.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Thu May 14 2015, 00:27

I'd rather see better formations with large WWP (Like a Blast marker size that lets 3-5 raiders DS'ing through it and gain added rules).

I would feel more DE if we had stuff like that than a giant MC/GC

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Thu May 14 2015, 04:40

True. Something that allows us to destroy things from no where. Also, cannot believe this hasn't been hit yet.....Reduced cost for Raiders. Maybe by 10? I mean rhinos and drop pods are 35.....I understand we have bonuses to use but seriously 55?
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Thu May 14 2015, 11:33

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True. Something that allows us to destroy things from no where. Also, cannot believe this hasn't been hit yet.....Reduced cost for Raiders. Maybe by 10? I mean rhinos and drop pods are 35.....I understand we have bonuses to use but seriously 55?

If jink and assault from open top wasnt a think then yes.

Dont be surprised if next SM book Rhinos get a 15pt Assault ramps (making them 50pts).

But yes, I want to see AMAZING Army assaulting, fast out of no where formations Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Thu May 14 2015, 11:52

@amishprn86 wrote:
@JackKnife01 wrote:
True. Something that allows us to destroy things from no where. Also, cannot believe this hasn't been hit yet.....Reduced cost for Raiders. Maybe by 10? I mean rhinos and drop pods are 35.....I understand we have bonuses to use but seriously 55?

If jink and assault from open top wasnt a think then yes.

Dont be surprised if next SM book Rhinos get a 15pt Assault ramps (making them 50pts).

But yes, I want to see AMAZING Army assaulting, fast out of no where formations Sad

I'd be amazed if they did - the model would require an overhaul for a start! The assault ramps granted to Land Raiders and Storm Ravens are always represented by an opening on the front of the vehicle. Rhinos and Razorbacks main door is at the rear. Whilst i realise that they all have side doors, some of which function as assault and others don't, the difference (and therefore as I see it the justification for the rule) is the door on the front.

Of course the irony is that actually there's an argument that the Rhino should be the assault transport as it tends to carry troops who need to get into combat rather than terminators, who can pretty much stand around and take a turn of fire (unless you roll 2+ saves like me).

Raiders at 55 I'm completely happy with, I'd rather take them at that cost than a Rhino at the cheaper level.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Thu May 14 2015, 13:06

I could see an assault variant rhino. Still as far as rumors, black Templar get their own book again, and I would just use a casetus assault ram. Now as far as our raiders....I would like to see something new come out for them. Idk what....frag grenade launcher type things for incubi.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Fri May 15 2015, 00:36

doesnt really make sense for Dark Eldar to have a super heavy as anywhere there is a super heavy and its forces stationed the DE wouldnt bother raiding it. Unless of course it was to prove that they could and then they wouldnt use one as a point of pride.

however we do need something to counter super heavies which we currently lack, i actually really liked the old Ravager titan hunter formation in apocalypse as it was a good counter to most super heavies and kept the theme of insane raiders
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Fri May 15 2015, 02:19

Aside from a Monstrous Creature from the Covens the only other thing that makes sense to me as a super heavy for Dark Eldar would be some kind of Pirate (Space) Ship weapons platform (My thinking being something between the Tau Manta and Tiger Shark in size and scope).

I still prefer the Dark Eldar getting more tools to defeat Monstrous Creatures and Super Heavies instead of getting their own.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Fri May 15 2015, 07:43

A Reaper style ship, with a Str-D Beam Lance, 150pts AV 11/11/10 w/ FF optional Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Fri May 15 2015, 08:26

@helvexis wrote:
doesnt really make sense for Dark Eldar to have a super heavy as anywhere there is a super heavy and its forces stationed the DE wouldnt bother raiding it. Unless of course it was to prove that they could and then they wouldnt use one as a point of pride.

Just because it's big doesn't mean it has to be slow though.

[Edit:] Sorry, I just noticed that I misinterpreted helvexis's post.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Fri May 15 2015, 09:12

@Rokuro wrote:
@helvexis wrote:
doesnt really make sense for Dark Eldar to have a super heavy as anywhere there is a super heavy and its forces stationed the DE wouldnt bother raiding it. Unless of course it was to prove that they could and then they wouldnt use one as a point of pride.

Just because it's big doesn't mean it has to be slow though.

True. Our only actual LoW is the Revenant Titan which moves 36" ignoring all terrain!

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Sun May 17 2015, 06:56

I would want one of those!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Sun May 17 2015, 12:41

I always wished GW would make something like this:

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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar WraithKnight Equvilant?   Fri Jul 24 2015, 01:49

@Jimsolo wrote:
We will get D strength gargantuan creatures once everyone else has gotten something better.

so when we get the super-heavy barge of awesome the'll be deploying teleporting titans onto the field...joy Wink
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