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The Shredder
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PostSubject: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Mon Jan 19 2015, 15:11

I was just wondering if anyone has had any success using Wracks, aside from in Scalpel Squadrons?
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Mon Jan 19 2015, 19:41

Yes, but they were technically a Scalpel Squadron (5 with an Ossefactor in a Venom), just without the special rules.
They were quite an annoyance for TEQs and MCs though.
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Mon Jan 19 2015, 20:19

@Rokuro wrote:
Yes, but they were technically a Scalpel Squadron (5 with an Ossefactor in a Venom), just without the special rules.
They were quite an annoyance for TEQs and MCs though.

Interesting.

Were they from the DE codex or from the coven book?
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Mon Jan 19 2015, 23:38

@The Shredder wrote:
Interesting.

Were they from the DE codex or from the coven book?

From the Dark Eldar codex. If I had the Coven supplement (and a second squad of that kind) at the time, I probably would have used the Scalpel Squadron formation.

Still, it's not like you need a formation to use them for what they are good at anyway. And what they do best, imo, is shooting tough, highly armored enemies with Ossefactors.
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Sun Feb 15 2015, 01:01

I actually think the Scarlet Epicureans is more consistently useful.
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Sun Feb 15 2015, 09:33

I think Scarlet Epicureans is great, provided you have a use for a Cronos outside of Dark Artisan.

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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Sun Feb 15 2015, 10:40

@Calyptra wrote:
I think Scarlet Epicureans is great, provided you have a use for a Cronos outside of Dark Artisan.

How do you run them?

Also, what do you do with the Cronos? I never know what to use it for. tongue
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Sun Feb 15 2015, 15:03

@The Shredder wrote:
Also, what do you do with the Cronos? I never know what to use it for. tongue

A Cronos is supposed to be a supporter. You keep him near a squad you want to buff, but out of combat. The problem with that is the fact that about everything in our codex moves twice as fast as a Cronos.
I would only use it as part of a Dark Artisan formation (deepstriking) or in defensive games.
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Sun Feb 15 2015, 15:15

@Rokuro wrote:
A Cronos is supposed to be a supporter. You keep him near a squad you want to buff, but out of combat.

I get that, but I was curious as to which squad(s) Calyptra was using it to buff.

@Rokuro wrote:
The problem with that is the fact that about everything in our codex moves twice as fast as a Cronos.

Yeah, that's one of the problems I have with it. The other is that I tend towards MSU armies, so there isn't really much that +1 FNP will help a great deal. It's part of why I was so interested in how Calyptra was making use of the Scarlet Epicureans one.

@Rokuro wrote:

I would only use it as part of a Dark Artisan formation (deepstriking) or in defensive games.

Agreed about DA, but what do you mean be 'defensive games'?
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Sun Feb 15 2015, 18:56

@The Shredder wrote:
I get that, but I was curious as to which squad(s) Calyptra was using it to buff.

Sorry. I didn't mean to tell you things you already know.

@The Shredder wrote:
@Rokuro wrote:

I would only use it as part of a Dark Artisan formation (deepstriking) or in defensive games.

Agreed about DA, but what do you mean be 'defensive games'?

Ambush, siege, capture and hold; those kinds of scenarios, with the Dark Eldar being the ones under attack.
Playing defensive may not be in our nature, but the Cronos is a tool we can use for that. It works like some sort of shield generator, flamer turret and artillery cannon in one.
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Sun Feb 15 2015, 19:03

@Rokuro wrote:
Ambush, siege, capture and hold; those kinds of scenarios, with the Dark Eldar being the ones under attack.

Where are those scenarios from?
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Sun Feb 15 2015, 19:17

@The Shredder wrote:
@Rokuro wrote:
Ambush, siege, capture and hold; those kinds of scenarios, with the Dark Eldar being the ones under attack.

Where are those scenarios from?

Those aren't any official names. But most scenarios of this kind come from the Codex: Stronghold Assault.
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PostSubject: Re: Wracks outside of Scalpel Squadrons   Sun Feb 15 2015, 19:41

Interesting. I might see if I can get a copy.
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