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Sigmaril
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PostSubject: Want a cheap quadgun or comms relay?    Sun Dec 21 2014, 21:34

Huge news (for me, at least) :-)
I'm going to a small tournament tomorrow, and is currently reading through the Stronghold Assault book to once again see if I can squeeze a cheap comms relay into my army, when I suddenly stumble into this:

Battlefield Debris:
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The following list summarises the rules for battlefield debris that can be purchased as an upgrade to a fortification, or as fortifications in their own right.
Did you catch it?

...or as a fortification in their own right!!!!

This has been right under my nose for so very long!

This means that we do not actually need an annoyingly stationary Aegis Defense Line or Bastion in order to get that precious Comms Relay og Gun Emplacement upgrade. I can just settle for shelling out the 20 points for the Comms Relay alone, and have that be my Fortification in itself.

Or am I reaching here?
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PostSubject: Re: Want a cheap quadgun or comms relay?    Mon Dec 22 2014, 04:37

Memo to self read words, welp i dont use realspace raiders anyway COMBINED ARMS FOR LIFE!

you saved me not wanting to take an autarch

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PostSubject: Re: Want a cheap quadgun or comms relay?    Mon Dec 22 2014, 06:14

Maybe? It seems to be:

List of a or b

Not a taken as b or c

Ie, here is a list of fortifications and upgrades, not upgrades that can be fortifications.

I'm guessing you are SOL, but let me know if TO rules with you.
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PostSubject: Re: Want a cheap quadgun or comms relay?    Mon Dec 22 2014, 18:18

I'd have to see it in context to make a judgment call.
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PostSubject: Re: Want a cheap quadgun or comms relay?    Mon Dec 22 2014, 18:38

Shocked


I just had a look at Stronghold Assault......and that is indeed what it says!
The previous page even gives you points costs!



VERY INTERESTING.
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PostSubject: Re: Want a cheap quadgun or comms relay?    Mon Dec 22 2014, 23:05

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Looking over the book in front of me....

My interpretation is that the items listed under the Battlefield Debris section are ALL special rules associated with upgrades or pieces of fortifications.

Ammo Dump, Barricades/Walls, Gun Emplacements, Tanglewire, Tank Traps, and Comms Relays are upgrades (as defined on the previous page under the Obstacles and Battlements & Battlefield upgrade subsections).

The Defense Line, Imperial Statuary, and Wreckage/Rubble are all part of 2 different fortification entries - the Aegis Defense Line and the Honoured Imperium (which consists of an Imperial Statuary and 2 pieces of of Rubble).

So the summary of the Battlefield Debris is accurate in that some elements listed in this section ARE upgrades while others are directly part of a fortification.

It's not saying you can take upgrades as fortification in and of themselves, it's saying some of the things listed in the section are upgrades and some are actual pieces of fortification datasheets found later in the book.
Someone on another forum posted this replay to the topic, and I'm convinced. Which is probably for the better, since every army with a slight possibility of using reserves would be able to spend 20 points on the thing....
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