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Andy140491
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PostSubject: How do Dark Eldar cope with Horde Armies??   Sun Nov 09 2014, 12:48

I love my dark eldar to pieces.. but I'm a little weary I'm going to be a little downtrodden when I lose my first few games with them, as I'm not only new to DE, but this ed of 40k. 

I can see how dark eldar can best vehicles, 3+ armour saves, and the like, even though I think I'll struggle with tactical play initially. But as for horde, we don't seem to have that many multiple shots/blasts outside of splinter cannons, and our paper fliers? I'm more then likely being ignorant as I've never really looked into playing against a horde army, but since my friend is considering Tyranids with the new drop pods, it looks like that's a new threat! 5 str 4 ap 5 Ord blasts. That's insane!
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PostSubject: Re: How do Dark Eldar cope with Horde Armies??   Sun Nov 09 2014, 12:59

If you want more anti-horde, you could always run some scourges with shredders or something. I tend to have lots and lots of poison shots though and those usually do just fine against hordes of enemies as well.

You mentioned the razorwing jetfighters as well and I can tell you I always bring 2 of them now. Those missile barrages can easily wipe out even the largest of units. I think my best round was inflicting 21 wounds on a unit of pink horrors from one razorwing.
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PostSubject: Re: How do Dark Eldar cope with Horde Armies??   Sun Nov 09 2014, 13:44

Quote :
paper fliers

Why does it matter if they are paper if they fire all 4 rockets when they appear?

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PostSubject: Re: How do Dark Eldar cope with Horde Armies??   Sun Nov 09 2014, 15:29

@Andy140491 wrote:
But as for horde, we don't seem to have that many multiple shots/blasts outside of splinter cannons, and our paper fliers?
I would agree, we don't.
That said - I think that qualifies as two ways to deal with horde right there.

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PostSubject: Re: How do Dark Eldar cope with Horde Armies??   Sun Nov 09 2014, 19:47

In my experience, vs Orks: Two Razorwings firing ALL their missiles as soon as soon as they arrive will obliterate two huge infantry blobs instantly. I make sure to prioritise dealing with my opponent's anti-air on turn one.
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PostSubject: Re: How do Dark Eldar cope with Horde Armies??   Sun Nov 09 2014, 20:57

Identify targets as per normal.
Apply splinter fire to blob until its ability to function offensively has been crippled. Missile and Dark Scythe blasts also work wonders.

That said, the most productive way to deal with a horde is to use its mass against itself. By pulling the center to the right (or left), you disrupt much of the army's shooting.

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PostSubject: Re: How do Dark Eldar cope with Horde Armies??   Sun Nov 09 2014, 21:44

Refused flank works wonders. The horde's advantage is, as the name would suggest, in its numbers. If you can prevent them from using the numbers by not being near half their army, you can lessen that part of their edge.

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PostSubject: Re: How do Dark Eldar cope with Horde Armies??   Mon Nov 10 2014, 02:21

Would you guys suggest the same plan of action against Ork biker armies? They are currently the pain in my back.

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PostSubject: Re: How do Dark Eldar cope with Horde Armies??   Mon Nov 10 2014, 02:44

@MurDok wrote:
Would you guys suggest the same plan of action against Ork biker armies?  They are currently the pain in my back.
You can't hide from them as easily - but massed poison and blasters will eat a hole in them pretty quickly.

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PostSubject: Re: How do Dark Eldar cope with Horde Armies??   Mon Nov 10 2014, 10:11


+++ New Roster (1500pts) +++ 
+++ 1500pt Dark Eldar: Codex (2014) Roster (Combined Arms Detachment)) +++ 

Selections: 

Dark Eldar: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) Selections: 

+ HQ + (220pts) 

* Haemonculus (125pts) 
(Feel No Pain, Independent Character, Master of Pain, Night Vision, Power from Pain) 
2x Close combat weapon, Gnarlskin, Splinter Pistol, The Animus Vitae (20pts) (Agonising), Webway portal (35pts) 


* Succubus (95pts) 
(Combat Drugs, Dodge, Fleet, Independent Character, Night Vision, Power from Pain) 
Archite glaive (20pts), Plasma Grenades, Splinter pistol, Wychsuit 


+ Elites + (140pts) 

* Grotesques (140pts) 
(Bulky, Feel No Pain, Night Vision, Power from Pain, Rampage) 
Gnarlskin 
* Grotesque (35pts) 
Close combat weapon, Flesh Gauntlet (Lethal Dose) 
* Grotesque (35pts) 
Close combat weapon, Flesh Gauntlet (Lethal Dose) 
* Grotesque (35pts) 
Close combat weapon, Flesh Gauntlet (Lethal Dose) 
* Grotesque (35pts) 
Close combat weapon, Flesh Gauntlet (Lethal Dose) 


+ Troops + (370pts) 

* Kabalite Warriors (185pts) 
(Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain) 
Kabalite Armour 
* 9x Kabalite Warrior (72pts) 
9x Close Combat Weapon, 9x Splinter Rifle 
* Kabalite Warrior with heavy weapon (up to 1 for 10 models) (23pts) 
Close Combat Weapon, Splinter cannon (15pts) 
* Raider (90pts) 
(Deep Strike, Night Vision) 
Dark Lance (5pts), Nightshield (15pts), Splinter Racks (15pts) 


* Kabalite Warriors (185pts) 
(Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain) 
Kabalite Armour 
* 9x Kabalite Warrior (72pts) 
9x Close Combat Weapon, 9x Splinter Rifle 
* Kabalite Warrior with heavy weapon (up to 1 for 10 models) (23pts) 
Close Combat Weapon, Splinter cannon (15pts) 
* Raider (90pts) 
(Deep Strike, Night Vision) 
Dark Lance (5pts), Nightshield (15pts), Splinter Racks (15pts) 


+ Fast Attack + (405pts) 

* Raider (75pts) 
(Deep Strike, Night Vision) 
Dark Lance (5pts), Nightshield (15pts) 


* Razorwing Jetfighter (185pts) 
(Night Vision, Supersonic) 
2 Dark Lances (10pts), Nightshield (15pts), 4x Shatterfield Missile (20pts), Splinter Cannon (10pts) 


* Razorwing Jetfighter (145pts) 
(Night Vision, Supersonic) 
2 Disintergrator Cannons, 4x Monoscythe Missile, Nightshield (15pts), Twin-linked Splinter Rifle (Twin-Linked) 


+ Heavy Support + (365pts) 

* Cronos (100pts) 
* Cronos (100pts) (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p41) 
(Fearless, Feel No Pain, Night Vision) 
Armoured Carapace, Spirit Syphon 


* Ravager (125pts) 
(Deep Strike, Night Vision) 
Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Nightshield (15pts) 


* Talos (140pts) 
* Talos (140pts) 
(Fearless, Feel No Pain, Night Vision) 
Armoured Carapace, Close Combat Weapon, Ichor Injector (10pts) (Lethal Dose), Twin-Linked Haywire Blaster (10pts) (Twin-Linked)

This is the list I've made with scribe. I don't know why it's not let me add the detachment in from the covens book but I was going to use the dark artisan formation Smile
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