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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:34

Q 4: Are Venoms and Raiders Fast Attacks as well as Dedicated Transports?
A 4. Yes

This one is huge, it means you can buy transports for allies without paying the troop tax.
You can buy empty venoms, which make them cheaper than before, for twelve 36" range splinter shots.
It gives flexibilty to the army list.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:34

@PainReaver wrote:
Any shooting weapon options for Archon, like Blasters, Shardcarbines etc...

Can Succubus take relics?

Is Archon armor save 5+ or 3+

Do Warrior squads come with Sybarites free?

1. Yes
2.Yes
3.5+
4.No
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:38

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@alexwellace wrote:
Guys, i don't think you are appreciating what those new Grots can do! If they are exactly how he says they are, then in the perfect conditions they get 9(!!!) attacks EACH. 3 Base + 2 for Rage + 1 for 2 cc weapons + D3 for Rampage, all at strength 6 for Furious Charge!  That is bloomin' ridiculous.

don't forget if they get +1 str or att from drugs.

I don't think Grots ever had drugs.

I heard from somewhere that each of them now have flesh gauntlets, and can be equipped with liquefiers each. Any confirmation?

Confirmed!
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:38

@LSK wrote:
Q 4: Are Venoms and Raiders Fast Attacks as well as Dedicated Transports?
A 4. Yes

This one is huge, it means you can buy transports for allies without paying the troop tax.
You can buy empty venoms, which make them cheaper than before, for twelve 36" range splinter shots.
It gives flexibilty to the army list.

Finally a transport for my Harlequins and.. dare I say... Banshees! :-P

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:39

@shadowseercB wrote:
Im already liking this codex more than the last, I really dont understand why people are complaining.  Thanks for the info Scorpion.

EDIT: I do wish witches got something, hopefully they are dirt cheap.

10 points each.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:40

@shadowseercB wrote:
Finally a transport for my Harlequins and.. dare I say... Banshees! :-P
Yep, I was thinking the same thing, but you'll have to buy them in the Eldar Codex.
Scorpion said Harlies were not mentionned in the DE codex
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:42

@Scorpion wrote:
@django_unchained wrote:
Stats on the wracks and grotesques? Also, Do they get FnP stock or earlier than other units?

The same... they start with FNP and...
Talos and Chronos start with FNP as well. And Chronos Spirit Probe gives DE unit within 6" +1 to FNP to a maximum of 4+

Were there any other big changes to Chronos? If not, I don't really see the point in taking them. It seems a huge waste of points and combat ability if they can't be combined in a unit with Talos and their ability is only within 6 inches...

Really liking the sound of grots though. Points stayed the same on them?
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:44

Wow, that's pretty amazing.

Could you detail Urien for us? Pt cost, stats, special rules, war gear?

So talos moving up with cronos have 4+ fnp? Would say a unit of 2 cronos give 4+ fnp to each other?
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:46

All missiles have the blast or Large blast rule. The void bomb is large blast now, Dark scythes that the voidraven can get instead of voidlances are 24", S 8, AP2, Blast, lance.

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:53

@django_unchained wrote:
Wow, that's pretty amazing.

Could you detail Urien for us? Pt cost, stats, special rules, war gear?

So talos moving up with cronos have 4+ fnp? Would say a unit of 2 cronos give 4+ fnp to each other?

1. 140 points, Gnarlskin, CCW, Ichor Injector, Clone Field, FNP(4+), It will not Die, Night Vision, Master of Pain, PfP, Father of pain, Casket of Flensing.

Modded.

2. No, it affect the chronos it self as well. So one Chronos with spitit probe has FNP 4+.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:55

@Sensei wrote:
@Scorpion wrote:
@django_unchained wrote:
Stats on the wracks and grotesques? Also, Do they get FnP stock or earlier than other units?

The same... they start with FNP and...
Talos and Chronos start with FNP as well. And Chronos Spirit Probe gives DE unit within 6" +1 to FNP to a maximum of 4+

Were there any other big changes to Chronos? If not, I don't really see the point in taking them. It seems a huge waste of points and combat ability if they can't be combined in a unit with Talos and their ability is only within 6 inches...

Really liking the sound of grots though. Points stayed the same on them?

35 points for Grots...

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:56

@Scorpion wrote:
@django_unchained wrote:
Wow, that's pretty amazing.

Could you detail Urien for us? Pt cost, stats, special rules, war gear?

So talos moving up with cronos have 4+ fnp? Would say a unit of 2 cronos give 4+ fnp to each other?

1. 140 points, Gnarlskin, CCW, Ichor Injector, Clone Field, FNP(4+), It will not Die, Night Vision, Master of Pain, PfP, Father of pain, Casket of Flensing.

Modded.

2. No, it affect the chronos it self as well. So one Chronos with spitit probe has FNP 4+.



So he's an insane auto take?
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 19:58

Mandrakes cause fear as well. So they have: Fear, Fleet, Infiltrate, Move through cover, Night vision, PfP, Shrouded, stealth, Baleblast, CCW.  12 points. A very nice unit.

stats: Modded.  Gob.


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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:00

Suddenly Mandrakes are no longer a joke. Suddenly new Serious Mandrakes meme will have to be had.

The fact is if Succubus can infact buy relics- buy her the special ghostplate for lols.

Archons can still run with Blasterborn which is cool, except in a raider now. Now add WWP.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:01

Glad i bought some metal ones off ebay!! Smile

Do implosion missiles on the void raven have large blast now? do they do the same thing? what is points cost for them?
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:01

@django_unchained wrote:
@Scorpion wrote:
@django_unchained wrote:
Wow, that's pretty amazing.

Could you detail Urien for us? Pt cost, stats, special rules, war gear?

So talos moving up with cronos have 4+ fnp? Would say a unit of 2 cronos give 4+ fnp to each other?

1. 140 points, Gnarlskin, CCW, Ichor Injector, Clone Field, FNP(4+), It will not Die, Night Vision, Master of Pain, PfP, Father of pain, Casket of Flensing.

Modded.

2. No, it affect the chronos it self as well. So one Chronos with spitit probe has FNP 4+.



So he's an insane auto take?

He is a beast... His worlord trait is: Ancient Evil : Warlord and DE units within 12", have Fear.

Now If he just had a WWP... but he doesn't.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:02

@Scorpion wrote:
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How have Incubi been changed? Are their Klaives now unwieldy? And what bonusses does the Klaivex now give?

1. No but No way of getting assault grenades.
2. NO
3. He has Rampage


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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:03

Really appreciate the effort here, but can we please avoid listing the entire stats and rules for each unit? Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:04

@Scorpion wrote:
@django_unchained wrote:
@Scorpion wrote:
@django_unchained wrote:
Wow, that's pretty amazing.

Could you detail Urien for us? Pt cost, stats, special rules, war gear?

So talos moving up with cronos have 4+ fnp? Would say a unit of 2 cronos give 4+ fnp to each other?

1. 140 points, Gnarlskin, CCW, Ichor Injector (Fleshbane, Lethal dose), Clone Field, FNP(4+), It will not Die, Night Vision, Master of Pain (same as ordinary heamon - treat the current turn as being one higher that it actually is when determining special rules from PfP), PfP, Father of pain (Master of Pain rule affects all unit within 12", not just his own unit). Casket of Flensing: Range 12", S 3, AP 3, assault 2D6, One use.

2. No, it affect the chronos it self as well. So one Chronos with spitit probe has FNP 4+.



So he's an insane auto take?

He is a beast... His worlord trait is: Ancient Evil : Warlord and DE units within 12", have Fear.

Now If he just had a WWP... but he doesn't.


It's almost like you don't want him to have a WWP. Given the fact he gives Master of pain to units within 12"
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:04

@PainReaver wrote:
Suddenly Mandrakes are no longer a joke. Suddenly new Serious Mandrakes meme will have to be had.

The fact is if Succubus can infact buy relics- buy her the special ghostplate for lols.

Archons can still run with Blasterborn which is cool, except in a raider now. Now add WWP.

Archon can buy his own Venom, and blasterborn can have venoms as well.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:04

i need to buy some chronos' lol 4++ and 4+FNP and it will not die, that is going to be hard to get rid of!
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:04

@Gobsmakked wrote:
Really appreciate the effort here, but can we please avoid listing the entire stats and rules for each unit?  Thank you.

Absolutely, Shall I delete it?
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:05

No, leave that one. I might change it a bit. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:06

Can we get the special rules for Lelith?

And for Drazhar?

Please skip the points and statlines to keep mods happy!

And thank you for the Grotesque rules, Talos and Chronos rules, they make me gloriously happy.


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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 20:06

@Scorpion wrote:
@PainReaver wrote:
Suddenly Mandrakes are no longer a joke. Suddenly new Serious Mandrakes meme will have to be had.

The fact is if Succubus can infact buy relics- buy her the special ghostplate for lols.

Archons can still run with Blasterborn which is cool, except in a raider now. Now add WWP.

Archon can buy his own Venom, and blasterborn can have venoms as well.

Finally justifying the fluff in the old codex- in the venom entry, something about the venom transporting a single passenger in STYLE.

Archon in a Raider. PIMP.
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