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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 16:51

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Well that makes my arena champion with power spear non existent

Ditto. Guess I'll have to give her an agonizer instead (giggles maniacally at the thought of a whip curling over the canopy of the jetbike)

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 16:51

Hi Scorpion!

Me, and many others really appreciate this a lot, even though it is just a few days until we get the book ourselves, this does help easing our pain and hunger for knowledge.

I have some questions too. Smile

1: Can an Archon have any AP2 weapon at all?
2: Which models can have a Venomblade?
3: Are combat drugs an item that HQ's can buy from a list (like a Space marine captain can buy an Auspex), or is it directly bought within the entry? Can an Archon still buy it?
4: Are Venoms and Raiders Fast Attacks as well as Dedicated Transports?

That'd be all from me, thanks again!
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 16:55

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Kabalites are the same allthough PGL is as rumoured soulblight (no way of getting defensive grenades). 8 points and may take a raider even though a unit is 10+.
Sorry for the barrage but this one's kinda huge.. are saying warriors went to min size 10? If so do they still unlock venoms?

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 16:56

Oh, also forgot!

5: Can Kabalite Trueborn still buy several Heavy/Special Weapons? Are Shardcarbines still available?
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:03

@Bloodytooth wrote:
Grotesques, same stats, points and options? Still blow up if not joined by an independent character?

Also any changes to Lelith, Drazhar or Urien other than points reductions?

Grotesques are the new hit, I think. Same stats but.... they do not blow up and they got Flesh gauntlets + ccw and Rampage. Nice!! Flesh Gauntlets: S as user, AP-, Lethal Dose, poison (4+)

Lethal Dose: 6 to wound gives ID.

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:06

@Scorpion wrote:
@Bloodytooth wrote:
Grotesques, same stats, points and options? Still blow up if not joined by an independent character?

Also any changes to Lelith, Drazhar or Urien other than points reductions?

Grotesques are the new hit, I think.  Same stats but.... they do not blow up and they got Flesh gauntlets + ccw and Rampage. Nice!! Flesh Gauntlets: S as user, AP-, Lethal Dose, poison (4+)

Lethal Dose: 6 to wound gives ID.

Wow... A gem in the pile of garbage to be sure!
Am I right in thinking ALL grots come with flesh gauntlets and ccw?
If so.. wraithknights, wraithlords and tau riptides will run away at the sight of them, ap- or not!

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:14

What does soulblight do?
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:20

@Crazy_Ivan wrote:
Are scourge rumours true, squads of 5 can take 4 heavy weapons?

6 fast attack slots?

can other units enter via webway portal once deepstriked in?
does webwat portal use same small blast template as before(really hope my webway portals get used!)

1. Yes.

2. In the "Realspace Raiders Detachment" can you get 6 fast choices, yes. Giving 5+ cover save to troops and 6+ cover save too all others units in the detachment int the first turn AND any turn with night fighting.

3. any unit the Archon/succubus/heamon that has it have joint and their transport. Thats DS without scattering.
No blast.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:20

@colinsherlow wrote:
Transport capacity of vehicles the same?

Can any if the HQs take a bike or sky board?

1. Yes.

2. No and no.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:22

How have Incubi been changed? Are their Klaives now unwieldy? And what bonusses does the Klaivex now give?

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:28

@Dat_Other_Guy wrote:
i have questions that i would appreciate being answered Smile

- are there still trueborn in there and can they still take the same weapons they did in the old dex
- are mandrakes better?
- what got nerfed in terms of units
- can venoms still take double splinter cannons?
- what defenses did our vehicles get ?, with the removal of Flickerfields to everything other than venoms.
- how much is a shadowfield now?/ who can take them
- What do WWP's do now? and how many points?

1. Yes and Yes.
2. Much better, stealth, shrouded and baleblast from start. Baleblast: assault 2, St 4. AP4, soulblaze
3. Wyches are dead no buffs, no haywire, Dodge only in Fight subphase. Incubi cant get grenades.
4. Yes but can only get Grisly trophies and chain snares.... no shields. SUCKS!!
5. Night shields give stealth and the new detachment gives cover in the first turn.
6. 4+ inv, 40 points, only archon
7. gives DS without scatter, 35 points, archon/succubus/ heamon can take it.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:28

@The_Burning_Eye wrote:
Can the flyers take flickerfields?

no
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:31

@LSK wrote:
Hi scorpion, and thank you for sharing info.

AA. Do wyches have any chance to survive overwatch and raider explosion? or nothing has changed?
BB. Which units have access to Haywire weapons?
CC. Is there any change on the kabalite warrior profile and equipment?

ZZ.  Are Harlequins still in the book?
if yes, do they have bladestorm special rule (as in eldar codex)? do they have access to a transport (either designated transport or can be bought in a support slot)

AA. No change
BB. only wych champion, succubus, archon

ZZ. Only in fluff, no entry.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:32

Does Urien still offer a S6 upgrade to Grots?

Thanks Scorpion.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:36

What do the relics do?
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:38

wait are the shadowfields now a 4+ invul?

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:44

@Elzadar wrote:
wait are the shadowfields now a 4+ invul?

No, sorry, I mixed it up. Clonefield is 4+ inv. Shadowfield is allmost the same. It works until the end of the phase inwhich you fail the 2+ inv.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:47

@Scorpion wrote:
@Elzadar wrote:
wait are the shadowfields now a 4+ invul?

No, sorry, I mixed it up. Clonefield is 4+ inv. Shadowfield is allmost the same. It works until the end of the phase inwhich you fail the 2+ inv.

THANK GOD

And how are the Incubi? DId they get unwieldy?

And can Wyches use dodge in the assault phase or only against overwatch?

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:53

If you have the book, why don't you take photos of them and post it somewhere?

I mean, if you are going to say what's inside, what's the problem of taking those photos anyway?
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:54

Copyright, and the mods would take it down.
He had to send Pictures as proof to the mods if you actually read the thread.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:57

Stats on the wracks and grotesques? Also, Do they get FnP stock or earlier than other units?
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:59

Also for what its worth I posted a long detailed summary from another person with the dex.. link a page or two back. Most all of this info matches up so far to further prove its accuracy. Might wanna check that link so this doesn't get bogged down with info that is already confirmed.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 17:59

But that's why I said somewhere. He don't need to post them here, he can post them "somewhere", and give a link.

Damn, he could give them to me, and I would upload them somewhere, post them somewhere else, and then give the link here.

And please, copyright? He is already saying what's in the codex. If he anonymously post the images somewhere else, he could accomplish exactly the same thing.

If by merely leaking the codex GW could know who he is, the same could happen by answering to our questions. As answering to our questions does not endanger him, the same will happen leaking the photos.
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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 18:00

@Frederick Vael wrote:
But that's why I said somewhere. He don't need to post them here, he can post them "somewhere", and give a link.

Damn, he could give them to me, and I would upload them somewhere, post them somewhere else, and then give the link here.

And please, copyright? He is already saying what's in the codex. If he anonymously post the images somewhere else, he could accomplish exactly the same thing.

If by merely leaking the codex GW could know who he is, the same could happen by answering to our questions. As answering to our questions does not endanger him, the same will happen leaking the photos.

Apparently my ordered codex is also in stock with another store today. So it doesn't surprise me at all if he has the codex.

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PostSubject: Re: I have the book, ask me a question - summary as of Oct. 3rd in OP   Wed Oct 01 2014, 18:02

In literally two days it won't matter anymore.

I'm grateful he's taking the trouble to do this at all.

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